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Exposing the MLM Marketing Scheme and Cult Manipulation Tactics of Jim Fortin's TCP PROGRAM
2023.06.09 00:05 Bosslady522 Exposing the MLM Marketing Scheme and Cult Manipulation Tactics of Jim Fortin's TCP PROGRAM
Jim Fortin, a self-proclaimed subconscious transformation coach, and his associates James Wedmore and Kathrin Zenkina and how it all ties back to a Shaman. It has come to my attention that they are operating what appears to be an MLM marketing scheme under the guise of transformational coaching programs and podcasts.Jim Fortin, known as the host of the Jim Fortin Podcast and the creator of the Transformational Coaching Program (TCP), initially presents himself as a leader in subconscious reprogramming. However, it has become evident that a significant portion of his teachings and success stories are attributed to a shaman named DX, whom nobody in the program ever gets to meet, but he publicly mentions him ANY MINUTE. It took me 3 years to wake up and realize what was going on, I have been in this work for years until i had an epiphany. The programs and courses offered by Fortin, Wedmore, and Zenkina all seem to lead back to this mysterious figure, DX, or require participants to donate and tithe to DX.
Please go through each of these and listen carefully, this is what he just shares with the public, when you're in the program he literally talks about this shaman like he's a god.
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manifestation babes mention of this Shaman with Brandon Lucero ep #223 it's titled infusing spirituality into business done deep shamanic work from a male perspective Brandon Lucero
It's a wild story about his brother. I verified through Google for it to be true, but something about the story is VERY OFF. Listeners are too deep in the spiritual world to even question this.) In this transcript he goes by DON his names are DX - DON XAVIER, DX, but his real name is DON JAVIER. I also have records of all these videos in the program through Facebook that I can share)I was a member of Jim Fortin's TCP. Initially, the program appeared intriguing, promising subconscious insights derived from DX's teachings. However, it soon became apparent that the program was designed as a cycle of joining more programs and upsells. I eventually ended up joining a program director working with DX, but to my disappointment, it was Jim Fortin's sister, Mandy, who led the group. Don Javier, the elusive shaman, remained inaccessible, with Mandy reciting his teachings through video calls once a week. No pictures or videos are ever shown. We were told we would be more in contact with him if we did his program, not happening.
Once you are in the KODEX group ( DX's program) What was initially presented as a transformative journey into expanded consciousness and connection with the Earth gradually revealed itself to be a cult-like environment. Students were indoctrinated with a set of rules and restrictions, such as the mandatory candle ceremony in your bedroom, purportedly to protect our energy and avoid attracting negative spirits. Restriction of travel to certain countries and participation in events with large crowds were also discouraged. Making sure to buy crystals and certain knick-knacks to protect your energy.
The financial aspect of these programs is particularly alarming. The pricing for courses, consultations, and donations go up every year. Students are made to believe that the only way to grow and improve is by continuously engaging in these programs. The tactics employed to overcome objections during the sales process, known as "slide-offs," further manipulate individuals into making financial commitments.Additionally, the leaders involved, including Jim Fortin, James Wedmore, and Kathrin Zenkina, create a narrative that positions DX as the appointed one, suggesting that any success experienced by participants is due to his energetic work behind the scenes. I can give you all the pricing information and receipts of this work. Another BIG RED FLAG with everything is the encouragement of something they called AYNI - "what you have in prosperity is a reflection of your prosperity consciousness and your consciousness determines to what degree you serve others." Jim Fortin talks about this idea, then this leads to once you get to DX's program - he and his wife MANIPULATE YOU WITH AINI.
THEN JIM KEEPS SAYING THIS SHAMAN IS SO HARD TO WORK WITH - doesn't have any social meida, or anything and has a contact wait of 2 years BUT THEN HAS A LINK TO WORK WITH HIM MYSTERIOUSLY IN HIS CONTACT PAGE. YOU CAN GET ON THAT LIST AND WAIT TWO YEARS BUT IF YOU USE AINI OR Tithing whatever you can give to DX, you get GET ONTop of what you pay to get into the membership!! Or if you want to work with DX -the shaman,image.png
.Then you can pay a donation to "MOVE UP THE LIST" i have sources where he said this.. This insinuation instills a belief that failure to adhere to the program or fall out of alignment with Fortin's teachings can bring havoc into one's life. Consequently, students like myself were manipulated into fully embracing this belief, surrendering our critical thinking and autonomy
.Personally, I have invested a significant amount of money, approximately $15,000 to $20,000 in the past 3 years or so, in Jim's programs. While initially providing some benefits, it has become clear that the true purpose behind these teachings is to extract more money from vulnerable individuals. They tie you into a year-long program and use manipulation tactics to get you back or make sure you're healing or self-improvement isn't done.
There are reports of people spending even larger sums and becoming deeply entangled in this manipulation.
What it comes down to - is they all get a cut off this, Katherine talks about DX and is almost like an affiliate for his work as she is for James, you can check the site and she promotes his Business by Design Program. Jim talks about DX and the goal is to get those super intrigued to be in this "shaman's program" after TCP and then he gets a cut, as well as James Wedmore. This is all leads back to DX, a guy you never hear, see, or know from, and that's the mystique and marketing behind it. You get to this deep rabbit hole and realize either Jim and all his associates are severely brainwashed by this man we never know of, or they are all in on it.
Hope that by exposing this MLM marketing scheme and the manipulative tactics employed by Jim Fortin, James Wedmore, and Kathrin Zenkina, we can prevent others from falling victim to their deceptive practices. It is crucial to raise awareness about the exploitation of vulnerable individuals who seek personal growth and transformation.I have alot of data and videos AND LINKS to the sources i have in the body if you want to learn more or verify!
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Please go through each of these and listen carefully, this is what he just shares with the public, when you're in the program he literally talks about this shaman like he's a god.
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manifestation babes mention of this Shaman with Brandon Lucero ep #223 it's titled infusing spirituality into business done deep shamanic work from a male perspective Brandon Lucero
It's a wild story about his brother. I verified through Google for it to be true, but something about the story is VERY OFF. Listeners are too deep in the spiritual world to even question this.) In this transcript he goes by DON his names are DX - DON XAVIER, DX, but his real name is DON JAVIER. I also have records of all these videos in the program through Facebook that I can share)I was a member of Jim Fortin's TCP. Initially, the program appeared intriguing, promising subconscious insights derived from DX's teachings. However, it soon became apparent that the program was designed as a cycle of joining more programs and upsells. I eventually ended up joining a program director working with DX, but to my disappointment, it was Jim Fortin's sister, Mandy, who led the group. Don Javier, the elusive shaman, remained inaccessible, with Mandy reciting his teachings through video calls once a week. No pictures or videos are ever shown. We were told we would be more in contact with him if we did his program, not happening.
Once you are in the KODEX group ( DX's program) What was initially presented as a transformative journey into expanded consciousness and connection with the Earth gradually revealed itself to be a cult-like environment. Students were indoctrinated with a set of rules and restrictions, such as the mandatory candle ceremony in your bedroom, purportedly to protect our energy and avoid attracting negative spirits. Restriction of travel to certain countries and participation in events with large crowds were also discouraged. Making sure to buy crystals and certain knick-knacks to protect your energy.
The financial aspect of these programs is particularly alarming. The pricing for courses, consultations, and donations go up every year. Students are made to believe that the only way to grow and improve is by continuously engaging in these programs. The tactics employed to overcome objections during the sales process, known as "slide-offs," further manipulate individuals into making financial commitments.Additionally, the leaders involved, including Jim Fortin, James Wedmore, and Kathrin Zenkina, create a narrative that positions DX as the appointed one, suggesting that any success experienced by participants is due to his energetic work behind the scenes. I can give you all the pricing information and receipts of this work. Another BIG RED FLAG with everything is the encouragement of something they called AYNI - "what you have in prosperity is a reflection of your prosperity consciousness and your consciousness determines to what degree you serve others." Jim Fortin talks about this idea, then this leads to once you get to DX's program - he and his wife MANIPULATE YOU WITH AINI.
THEN JIM KEEPS SAYING THIS SHAMAN IS SO HARD TO WORK WITH - doesn't have any social meida, or anything and has a contact wait of 2 years BUT THEN HAS A LINK TO WORK WITH HIM MYSTERIOUSLY IN HIS CONTACT PAGE. YOU CAN GET ON THAT LIST AND WAIT TWO YEARS BUT IF YOU USE AINI OR Tithing whatever you can give to DX, you get GET ONTop of what you pay to get into the membership!! Or if you want to work with DX -the shaman,image.png
.Then you can pay a donation to "MOVE UP THE LIST" i have sources where he said this.. This insinuation instills a belief that failure to adhere to the program or fall out of alignment with Fortin's teachings can bring havoc into one's life. Consequently, students like myself were manipulated into fully embracing this belief, surrendering our critical thinking and autonomy
.Personally, I have invested a significant amount of money, approximately $15,000 to $20,000 in the past 3 years or so, in Jim's programs. While initially providing some benefits, it has become clear that the true purpose behind these teachings is to extract more money from vulnerable individuals. They tie you into a year-long program and use manipulation tactics to get you back or make sure you're healing or self-improvement isn't done.
There are reports of people spending even larger sums and becoming deeply entangled in this manipulation.
What it comes down to - is they all get a cut off this, Katherine talks about DX and is almost like an affiliate for his work as she is for James, you can check the site and she promotes his Business by Design Program. Jim talks about DX and the goal is to get those super intrigued to be in this "shaman's program" after TCP and then he gets a cut, as well as James Wedmore. This is all leads back to DX, a guy you never hear, see, or know from, and that's the mystique and marketing behind it. You get to this deep rabbit hole and realize either Jim and all his associates are severely brainwashed by this man we never know of, or they are all in on it.
Hope that by exposing this MLM marketing scheme and the manipulative tactics employed by Jim Fortin, James Wedmore, and Kathrin Zenkina, we can prevent others from falling victim to their deceptive practices. It is crucial to raise awareness about the exploitation of vulnerable individuals who seek personal growth and transformation.I have alot of data and videos AND LINKS to the sources i have in the body if you want to learn more or verify!
2023.06.06 13:23 manband20 I WROTE A BOOK!
MacBethany: The American Dream
By: Nicholas Grubbs
It's student council election time, baby. Power corrupts and everyone gets hurt when they play with fire.
Summer break may be over and a new year may be starting at Arlington City High, but simmering tensions between the students are about to reach a boiling point as the annual Student Council elections draw near. In the wake of a ruined clandestine relationship, a scandal that ruined the former football team captain's life, and a suicide that sent shockwaves through the entire student body, this new year is shaping up to be even more traumatic than the one before.
Still reeling over the events of the previous year, Bethany Hill wants to see the school turn to ashes. In the meantime, she will stop at nothing to get her girlfriend, Lauren Bradshaw, crowned the new school queen. Lauren's own reservations about the job be damned, Beth will make her President or die trying.
Head Cheerleader Ashley Williams is out for blood after Beth (allegedly) stole Lauren, her secret ex-girlfriend, and puts forward her new boyfriend and star quarterback, Spencer Barnett, as Lauren's main competition. A true power couple, they stand to run the school unopposed if Spencer decides to take on yet another role as the "most popular guy in school," a role he grows to hate more and more with each passing day.
And then there's poor Katherine Duvall, a sweet naïve girl that just wants to make the world around her a better place for people outside of the top one percent. How is she supposed to run for office one day if she can barely give a book report in front of the class without wanting to throw up?
Unfortunately, Katherine can barely get her foot in the door before the Powers That Be force Tracy Summers, one of the sitting Class Representatives that is very much not apart of the "in-crowd," to befriend Katherine and sabotage her campaign from the inside in exchange for their friendship and a better spot on the Student Council. Knowing she will never get into Harvard if she doesn't get a stronger application, she begrudgingly accepts.
Lies, cheating, and manipulation are the name of the game and only one person can win. In this first entry of the "MACBETHANY" series, we will see just how far people will go to help the ones they love and just how far they will go to help themselves.
TWs: assault and violence, bullying, depression, anxiety, self-harm, panic attacks and anxiety attacks, parental abuse, substance abuse, abusive relationships, homophobia, revenge porn, attempted sexual assault, and suicide.
This is my debut novel and it just came out on Saturday! It's available through a number of retailers (Universal Link available here) and here is a direct link to the Amazon page
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By: Nicholas Grubbs
It's student council election time, baby. Power corrupts and everyone gets hurt when they play with fire.
Summer break may be over and a new year may be starting at Arlington City High, but simmering tensions between the students are about to reach a boiling point as the annual Student Council elections draw near. In the wake of a ruined clandestine relationship, a scandal that ruined the former football team captain's life, and a suicide that sent shockwaves through the entire student body, this new year is shaping up to be even more traumatic than the one before.
Still reeling over the events of the previous year, Bethany Hill wants to see the school turn to ashes. In the meantime, she will stop at nothing to get her girlfriend, Lauren Bradshaw, crowned the new school queen. Lauren's own reservations about the job be damned, Beth will make her President or die trying.
Head Cheerleader Ashley Williams is out for blood after Beth (allegedly) stole Lauren, her secret ex-girlfriend, and puts forward her new boyfriend and star quarterback, Spencer Barnett, as Lauren's main competition. A true power couple, they stand to run the school unopposed if Spencer decides to take on yet another role as the "most popular guy in school," a role he grows to hate more and more with each passing day.
And then there's poor Katherine Duvall, a sweet naïve girl that just wants to make the world around her a better place for people outside of the top one percent. How is she supposed to run for office one day if she can barely give a book report in front of the class without wanting to throw up?
Unfortunately, Katherine can barely get her foot in the door before the Powers That Be force Tracy Summers, one of the sitting Class Representatives that is very much not apart of the "in-crowd," to befriend Katherine and sabotage her campaign from the inside in exchange for their friendship and a better spot on the Student Council. Knowing she will never get into Harvard if she doesn't get a stronger application, she begrudgingly accepts.
Lies, cheating, and manipulation are the name of the game and only one person can win. In this first entry of the "MACBETHANY" series, we will see just how far people will go to help the ones they love and just how far they will go to help themselves.
TWs: assault and violence, bullying, depression, anxiety, self-harm, panic attacks and anxiety attacks, parental abuse, substance abuse, abusive relationships, homophobia, revenge porn, attempted sexual assault, and suicide.
This is my debut novel and it just came out on Saturday! It's available through a number of retailers (Universal Link available here) and here is a direct link to the Amazon page
2023.06.06 06:04 manband20 MacBethany: The American Dream - YA LGBTQ+ Coming of Age - Available on Amazon
MacBethany: The American Dream
By: Nicholas Grubbs
It's student council election time, baby. Power corrupts and everyone gets hurt when they play with fire.
Summer break may be over and a new year may be starting at Arlington City High, but simmering tensions between the students are about to reach a boiling point as the annual Student Council elections draw near. In the wake of a ruined clandestine relationship, a scandal that ruined the former football team captain's life, and a suicide that sent shockwaves through the entire student body, this new year is shaping up to be even more traumatic than the one before.
Still reeling over the events of the previous year, Bethany Hill wants to see the school turn to ashes. In the meantime, she will stop at nothing to get her girlfriend, Lauren Bradshaw, crowned the new school queen. Lauren's own reservations about the job be damned, Beth will make her President or die trying.
Head Cheerleader Ashley Williams is out for blood after Beth (allegedly) stole Lauren, her secret ex-girlfriend, and puts forward her new boyfriend and star quarterback, Spencer Barnett, as Lauren's main competition. A true power couple, they stand to run the school unopposed if Spencer decides to take on yet another role as the "most popular guy in school," a role he grows to hate more and more with each passing day.
And then there's poor Katherine Duvall, a sweet naïve girl that just wants to make the world around her a better place for people outside of the top one percent. How is she supposed to run for office one day if she can barely give a book report in front of the class without wanting to throw up?
Unfortunately, Katherine can barely get her foot in the door before the Powers That Be force Tracy Summers, one of the sitting Class Representatives that is very much not apart of the "in-crowd," to befriend Katherine and sabotage her campaign from the inside in exchange for their friendship and a better spot on the Student Council. Knowing she will never get into Harvard if she doesn't get a stronger application, she begrudgingly accepts.
Lies, cheating, and manipulation are the name of the game and only one person can win. In this first entry of the "MACBETHANY" series, we will see just how far people will go to help the ones they love and just how far they will go to help themselves.
TWs: assault and violence, bullying, depression, anxiety, self-harm, panic attacks and anxiety attacks, parental abuse, substance abuse, abusive relationships, homophobia, revenge porn, attempted sexual assault, and suicide.
This is my debut novel and it just came out on Saturday! It's available through a number of retailers (Universal Link available here) and here is a direct link to the Amazon page (it's still in the 72 hour "review phase" so it sometimes doesn't show up on its own, but that seems to be fixed) and physical copies are coming very soon!!
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By: Nicholas Grubbs
It's student council election time, baby. Power corrupts and everyone gets hurt when they play with fire.
Summer break may be over and a new year may be starting at Arlington City High, but simmering tensions between the students are about to reach a boiling point as the annual Student Council elections draw near. In the wake of a ruined clandestine relationship, a scandal that ruined the former football team captain's life, and a suicide that sent shockwaves through the entire student body, this new year is shaping up to be even more traumatic than the one before.
Still reeling over the events of the previous year, Bethany Hill wants to see the school turn to ashes. In the meantime, she will stop at nothing to get her girlfriend, Lauren Bradshaw, crowned the new school queen. Lauren's own reservations about the job be damned, Beth will make her President or die trying.
Head Cheerleader Ashley Williams is out for blood after Beth (allegedly) stole Lauren, her secret ex-girlfriend, and puts forward her new boyfriend and star quarterback, Spencer Barnett, as Lauren's main competition. A true power couple, they stand to run the school unopposed if Spencer decides to take on yet another role as the "most popular guy in school," a role he grows to hate more and more with each passing day.
And then there's poor Katherine Duvall, a sweet naïve girl that just wants to make the world around her a better place for people outside of the top one percent. How is she supposed to run for office one day if she can barely give a book report in front of the class without wanting to throw up?
Unfortunately, Katherine can barely get her foot in the door before the Powers That Be force Tracy Summers, one of the sitting Class Representatives that is very much not apart of the "in-crowd," to befriend Katherine and sabotage her campaign from the inside in exchange for their friendship and a better spot on the Student Council. Knowing she will never get into Harvard if she doesn't get a stronger application, she begrudgingly accepts.
Lies, cheating, and manipulation are the name of the game and only one person can win. In this first entry of the "MACBETHANY" series, we will see just how far people will go to help the ones they love and just how far they will go to help themselves.
TWs: assault and violence, bullying, depression, anxiety, self-harm, panic attacks and anxiety attacks, parental abuse, substance abuse, abusive relationships, homophobia, revenge porn, attempted sexual assault, and suicide.
This is my debut novel and it just came out on Saturday! It's available through a number of retailers (Universal Link available here) and here is a direct link to the Amazon page (it's still in the 72 hour "review phase" so it sometimes doesn't show up on its own, but that seems to be fixed) and physical copies are coming very soon!!
2023.06.06 05:03 Gist_it A massive dictation event takes over the iconic Champs-Élysées in Paris
The iconic Champs-Élysées in Paris hosted a massive dictation event on Sunday, involving over 5,000 participants.
Event background: The "Giant Dictation" event was run by novelist Rachid Santaki, who started the initiative in 2013 to improve literacy across France. * The main goal of the event is to have fun with spelling and the French language, and it attracts participants of all ages.
Unique setup: 1,779 desks were organized in rows along the famed boulevard, which was closed to car traffic for the occasion. * Participants, ranging in age from 10 to 90, transcribed excerpts of text read aloud by journalist Augustin Trapenard, writer Katherine Pancol, and rugby player Pierre Rabadan.
Guinness connection: Guinness World Records reportedly observed the event, although a confirmation from the organization is awaited.
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Event background: The "Giant Dictation" event was run by novelist Rachid Santaki, who started the initiative in 2013 to improve literacy across France. * The main goal of the event is to have fun with spelling and the French language, and it attracts participants of all ages.
Unique setup: 1,779 desks were organized in rows along the famed boulevard, which was closed to car traffic for the occasion. * Participants, ranging in age from 10 to 90, transcribed excerpts of text read aloud by journalist Augustin Trapenard, writer Katherine Pancol, and rugby player Pierre Rabadan.
Guinness connection: Guinness World Records reportedly observed the event, although a confirmation from the organization is awaited.
View original article on NPR
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2023.06.05 13:04 FelicitySmoak_ On This Day In Michael Jackson HIStory - June 5th
 | 1972 - Michael appears as the bachelor at The Dating Game TV show and chooses Latanya Simmons as the bachelorette and he performs “Rockin Robin”. submitted by FelicitySmoak_ to MichaelJackson [link] [comments] https://preview.redd.it/cbmd6iqgp14b1.jpg?width=564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65c22672fe407482cbf736b5cf19576f73e1b3c9 https://preview.redd.it/1ty9balhp14b1.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26f5bd7b44ca8cda8e6719b4a2e57a1be06a5191 1984 - The Victory Tour contract is signed by Don King, Chuck Sullivan and Joe & Katherine Jackson. Sullivan pays $38.5 million to become tour promoter, of which $12.5 million is paid up front 1988 - Michael Jackson plays the first of three nights at Stadion Feijenoord (De Kuip) in Rotterdam, Holland, to an audience of 48,400 https://preview.redd.it/hcpq3wajp14b1.jpg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d38a1220d6208fdf819b1dd3eb01f330e3d73c8e https://preview.redd.it/kik0fw0kp14b1.jpg?width=405&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fad1097a9156fc2ce7b77935d84f0d5efd7c68fe https://preview.redd.it/vt95peokp14b1.jpg?width=411&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2749b6df255bccdbe0322f71aeeea5bba207f861 https://preview.redd.it/lek832dlp14b1.jpg?width=409&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7b20520a7243731f76fbcc6793761c819b06b7f https://preview.redd.it/6p0ela2mp14b1.jpg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cdb86489b6e1b80ae723bc0b658c5a097009bd74 1990- Michael Jackson undergoes tests at St John's Hospital and Health Center in Santa Monica, Cardiologist Mark Zatskis, reported that 'a temporary setback in his condition,' caused by new chest pains, delayed some scheduled testing."These diagnostic tests were rescheduled and hopefully will be completed (Tuesday)", he said. "In the meantime, Jackson remains under observation.Michael is a positive person and his spirits are never low", spokesman Bob Jones said. The hospital said Jackson had received 'many flowers and greetings from fans and well-wishers.' 1993-Michael is interviewed by Rick Dees on the Radio Sation KIIS FM in Los Angeles 1994 - Michael takes Lisa Marie and her children Benjamin & Danielle to Disneyworld in Florida. He also pays a visit to Shaquille O’Neal to talk about a musical collaboration. https://preview.redd.it/udm3cwwop14b1.jpg?width=252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b2277f505c25d161ac8e1f5e62a5fe58432e70e https://preview.redd.it/qm04k8tpp14b1.jpg?width=259&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e94288d417809b2c9e9c96163b6a54c622edfb6 https://preview.redd.it/8q5mdl7tp14b1.jpg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2805288f84c2ec44602d331a781f3f7607fea78e https://preview.redd.it/pgdjil1up14b1.jpg?width=249&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cb880dcdc34fb93f5ac208a29fb7eb23317429d 2005 - Michael was taken to an emergency room for treatment of a back problem. Accompanied by a bodyguard, he arrived at the Santa Ynez Valley Cottage Hospital, about five miles from Neverland at roughly 2:30 p.m. "Mr. Jackson's back has spurred up on him again.He’s under a tremendous amount of stress right now", spokeswoman Raymone Bain said at an impromptu news conference outside the hospital, "Other than his back, he is doing fine.″ Michael left the hospital in a SUV shortly after 8 p.m. in a flurry of activity. His aides erected white scaffolding outside the emergency room entrance to block the view of photographers gathered outside. 2009 - Michael attended rehearsals 2013 - Jackson v AEG Trial day 24 No Jackson family is in court Randy Phillips Testimony Jackson direct Brian Panish resumed questioning. He showed several instances where Randy Phillips said one thing in deposition, another while on the stand. Panish asked Phillips which answer was right. He answered: "Do you want the truth or do you want what I testified?"Panish asked Phillips if he knows the corporate structure of AEG Live. He said it was under AEG, but he doesn't know who exactly owns AEG. Panish showed a board meeting agenda on 5/26/09, in which they were to talk about Michael's tour Panish played the interview Phillips gave Sky News saying AEG hired Dr. Murray. Phillips said he meant AEG hired the doc on behalf of Michael. Phillips said AEG's media person set up several interviews for him after Michael's death. Phillips said each interview was different, but the intention was to say AEG hired Dr. Murray on behalf of Michael. "It's called the truth." Randy Phillips was asked about meetings with Conrad Murray at Michael Jackson's house. He confirmed Jackson's weight was discussed during at least one of the meetings. He was a bit unclear on dates, so Jackson's weight may have been discussed at two meetings. Panish tried to use a police report of an interview with Phillips and detectives to refresh his recollection Randy Phillips (AEG Live CEO) said there were numerous inaccuracies in the report. Panish started to ask him to go through it methodically. "We don't need to do it line-by-line', interjected Judge Yvette Palazuelos. Phillips then keyed in on two areas he said were inaccurate. Phillips said LAPD's detective made a mistake in the written police statement attributed to him. Phillips said he never told LAPD "Randy stated that Kenny got in Michael's face, at which time Dr. Murray admonished Randy..." "The police made a mistake," Phillips said. "He (detective) misconstrued what was said and made a mistake." Dr. Murray got in to and admonished Kenny Ortega and told him not to be an amateur doctor, Phillips said he told the police. Phillips read one statement about a meeting at Jackson's home between himself, Conrad Murray and director Kenny Ortega. Report: Randy stated that Kenny got into Michael's face, at which time Dr. Murray admonished Randy, stating, "You are not a doctor. Butt out". Phillips said the police made a mistake. "If you read it, it makes no sense," Phillips said. Phillips keyed in on how the report mentioned Murray got in his face, when it more than likely was Kenny Ortega he admonished. "I believe the Los Angeles Police Department is a fine entity as I believe in this judicial system," Phillips explained. Phillips pointed out another mistake in LAPD's report. It states Phillips/Gongaware produced 2 Michael Jackson tours but Phillips said he wasn't involved. Phillips also said the police report said he and Paul Gongaware worked with Jackson over the course of 16 years. Phillips said that was wrong - Gongaware worked with Jackson that long, but he hadn't. Those were the two inconsistencies Phillips pointed out in his police report. Interview apparently wasn't taped at request of AEG attorneys As to Michael missing rehearsals, Phillips clarified: "Michael was showing up to rehearsal, just not to enough of them, in Kenny's opinion"Phillips remembers one phone call with Dr. Murray that lasted probably about 25 minutes. Phillips told Panish he'd know how many times he called Dr. Murray because the attorney subpoenaed the exec's phone records. Panish said he never subpoenaed any phone records, that it was LAPD that did. Phillips said he made an assumption. The only phone call Phillips remembers is the one that Dr. Murray called him on June 20, 2009 In his deposition, Phillips said Paul Gongaware never communicated to him about the email that AEG, not Michael, was paying Dr. Murray. Phillips said at the deposition it was the first time he ever saw Gongaware's email. Panish showed the email that was forwarded to Frank DiLeo and Phillips was cc'd containing the mention that AEG, not Michael, pays Dr. Murray. Phillips said he never received the email. Then, after being shown the email at deposition, Phillips said he didn't remember receiving it. On the stand today, Phillips said he received Gongaware's email. Panish grilled Phillips pointing out he changed his answer three times. Phillips said he answered the same thing, but with different qualifications. "Frankly, I don't remember reading Paul's email, I was more concerned about Kenny's email," Phillips said. At this point, most jurors seemed to be tuned out when Phillips didn't give straight answers Panish showed an email dated 6/17/09 from Phillips to Dr. Tohme: Kenny Ortega, Gongaware, DiLeo, his doctor named Conrad from Vegas and I had an intervention with him to get him to focus and come to rehearsals yesterday. Getting him fully engaged is difficult and the most pressing matter as we are only 20 days out from the first showPhillips said it was not an intervention, but a meeting. He said it had nothing to do with drugs. Panish asked the executive if Jackson had ever fired Tohme. "It's not a yes or no answer", he said, "The answer is yes but he kept in contact with him" Phillips was asked about a lunch meeting he had with Jackson's former manager Tohme Tohme, at the Polo Lounge, about a month ago. AEG attorney, Marvin Putnam, was present too. Panish: "And you were discussing his testimony in this case at the Polo Lounge with him?"Phillips said he didn't remember exactly what was discussed. Phillips:"I don't remember what I ate"Phillips said the meeting had to do with the case Tohme filed against Jackson's estate with the state labor board for money he was never paid. Phillips was a witness.Panish said he would have a witness who could testify about what was discussed at the table later in the trial. Panish asked Phillips if he testified at Tohme's Labor Commission hearing to "try to help him out." Phillips said no. "I was completely impartial," Phillips said of testifying at the labor hearing. "I was an impartial witness." (After court, AEG attorney Marvin Putnam, who was at the lunch meeting, said it was standard for attorneys to interview witnesses before they testify. It remained unclear whether Tohme Tohme will testify during the Jackson vs AEG Live trial) Panish: "Isn't it true, sir, that when Dr. Murray was hired no one was acting as Michael Jackson's personal manager?"Phillips said AEG advanced DiLeo $50,000 at MJ's direction. Phillips said he didn't know anything about Dr. Tohme in January 09 other than he was a consultant for Colony Capital and repped Michael. "With Michael Jackson and his advisers you needed a scorecard", testified Randy Phillips. Phillips said he was introduced to Tohme in a meeting at the Century City offices of Colony Capital, the investment firm that held the mortgage on Jackson's Neverland Ranch. It was AEG owner Phillip Anschutz's friendship with a Colony Capital partner that led to the firm's promotion of the planned 50 This Is It concerts. Phillips said Tohme was an adviser to Colony Capital who had no background in the music business and represented no other clients when he began working with the singer. Brian Panish asked Phillips what kind of doctor Tohme was, whether he was a physician or if he had a doctorate. Phillips said that although he had met this doctor 25 times, he never asked him Randy Phillips was also asked about Tohme's $100k/mo. contract between him, AEG Live and Michael Jackson. Phillips said he could recall of only one other instance where AEG Live paid a fee for the artist's manager. He said it was a standard practice for Michael Jackson during his career. Phillips said Bon Jovi has a similar deal. Phillips said in Michael's career they always paid his personal manager. Randy Phillips denied that he told Sharon Osbourne that AEG Live had kept all the money from ticket sales for This Is It. "That would be the most idiotic thing in the world" to say, Phillips said of the statement attributed to him in the Osbourne conversation. Panish: "Did you talk to Sharon Osbourne about the show?"Phillips said he ran into Sharon at the lobby of their building. She asked how it was going, he said it's tough but we're going to get there. Phillips said the encounter with Sharon Osbourne was just a hi and bye. They never talked about ticket sales or anything else related to Michael 93% of the This Is It tickets sold were refunded, Phillips said. "7-8% people elected to hold the tickets as souvenirs." Out of $75 million in sales, AEG kept more than $5 million, which Phillips said they gave back to the estate. Phillips testified it was a "miracle" that the singer showed up at a news conference in London to announce his comeback. Randy Phillips testified that Jackson was hung over, although in emails he says the singer was drunk. "The fact that the press conference even happened is a miracle," Phillips wrote to Jackson's manager. Panish: "Was Mr. Jackson drunk?"Panish produced an e-mail writted by Phillips to AEG President Tim Leiwicke the day of the news conference. Phillips said: Michael is locked in his room drunk and despondent. Tohme [another Jackson manager] and I are trying to sober him up and get him to the press conference with his hairdressemake-up artistLeiweke's response: "Are you kidding me?"In a second email to Leiweke, Phillips wrote: I screamed at him so loud the walls are shaking. Tohme and I have dressed him and they are finishing his hair and then we are rushing to the O2. This is the scariest thing I have ever see. He is an emotionally paralyzed mess riddled with self loathing and doubt now that it is show time. He is scared to death. Right now I just want to get through his press conferenceAfter showing the e-mails to the jury, Panish asked his witness if he had yelled at Jackson on the day the e-mail was written. Phillips: "In the two-and-a-half hours this all took place, if you take it out of context the answer won't make any sense" The executive later acknowledged, "I raised my voice" Panish: "So the answer is no? Did you or did you not scream at Mr. Jackson? Yes, no or I don't remember?"Phillips said he couldn't answer the question. At his deposition six months earlier, before he was shown his e-mails, Phillips denied that Jackson was either drunk or despondent on the day of the president conference, and denied yelling, saying he merely "raised his voice." Phillips says he was telling the truth in his deposition, and was not accurate in his email. "I was relaying what Dr. Tohme told me... I wrote it as fast as I could write it." Panish:"You have to yell pretty loud to make the walls shake. Do you have a tendency to exaggerate?" Phillips: "No."To another business associate, Phillips wrote: "I haven't pulled it off yet. We still have to get his nose on properly. You have no idea what this is like. He is a self-loathing emotionally paralyzed mess... I just slapped him."Phillips admitted, "I slapped him on the butt" Phillips began worrying about Jackson backing out of the concert tour just a month after he signed the contract with AEG Live to promote and produce it and more than a week before the announcement. "I was worried that we would have a mess, his career would be over," Phillips testified. "There were a lot of things I was worried about." But instead of pulling the plug then, before millions of dollars were spent, AEG LIve chose to force Jackson ahead. "Once we go on sale, which we have the right to do, he is locked," Gongaware wrote to Phillips. Phillips testified it was "a very tense situation" and "frankly, I created the tension in that room. Because I was so nerve-racked, OK, the time slipping away, and his career slipping away." AEG was hosting thousands of Jackson fans and hundreds of journalists for the anticipated announcement, which would be seen live around the world. Court Transcript |
2023.06.04 13:03 FelicitySmoak_ On This Day In Michael Jackson HIStory - June 4th
 | 1970 - "The Love You Save" by The Jackson Five enters the Billboard Soul Singles chart where it will peak at #1 and remain there for 6 weeks submitted by FelicitySmoak_ to MichaelJackson [link] [comments] 1984 - Michael is on the cover of US magazine https://preview.redd.it/mupw1cqdcv3b1.jpg?width=194&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22341f64768e6df605942a9ad15af47ffbab0207 1990 - Thousands of Michael Jackson fans pour onto the grounds of St John's Hospital and Health Center in Santa Monica, Los Angeles to support Michael who was admitted last night suffering from severe chest pains. Doctors today ran a battery of tests to find out what ails him. “He’s undergoing several important tests today,” said Jackson spokesman Bob Jones. “I don’t think it was a heart attack. He just experienced some discomfort. He had been feeling bad the past two or three days.” 2009 - Michael attended rehearsals and goes to Dr Klein’s in Beverly Hills 2013 - Jackson v AEG Trial Day 23 Katherine was at court with Austin Brown. Paul Gongaware Testimony AEG cross He was asked about Michael's final two rehearsals at Staples Center. Gongaware couldn't recall details about the first one. He said he wasn't particularly attentive about Jackson's health & appearance. This was the 1st rehearsal after Jackson missed one 4 days earlier. Gongaware said Michael rehearsed on June 23rd. "He was fine," Gongaware described, saying his understanding was that Michael was okay. Gongaware said he wasn't being specifically attentive on the 23rd because he didn't think there was a problem with Michael. Michael rehearsed on Jun 24th. Gongaware watched "Thriller" in its entirety, it was the 1st time they were using costume. He said Michael seemed fine. Putnam: "Was he engaged?"On June 25th, Gongaware got a call from Randy saying he had a call from DiLeo asking him to go to Michael's house because something was going on. As Randy got to Michael's house, an ambulance was leaving and Randy followed it to the hospital. Gongaware said. "I didn't know what was going on" "At that point I was apprehensive because I didn't know what was happening." Gongaware said he didn't hear anything for a while, so he called Randy to see what was going on and he said Michael had died. "I was in shock," Gongaware recalled. "The artist was gone, he just passed away. How did this happen?!". Gongaware said he no idea what caused Michael to die, never contemplated the idea of Michael Jackson dying. Gongaware talked very matter-of-factly about the day Jackson died. Gongaware said he questioned how it happened. "I called Kenny right away and told him. He was at Staples Center," Gongaware recalled. "The atmosphere at Staples was very somber." After Michael's passing, Gongaware said they had to shut down production. He was then involved in Jackson's memorial service. As to why This Is It was happening in London, Gongaware explained it was Michael's best market. "We didn't know how strong it would be." Putnam asked Gongaware if AEG considered a tour in the US. "No, he had all those child allegations flying, it was the wrong thing to do" he said. Gongaware: "He didn't tour very often, I don't think he liked it very much. There were lots of things he would rather be doing". Michael never did "meet and greet, according to Gongaware The exec said Michael came out with the phrase "This Is It" because this was the last tour he was going to do. Michael only agreed to 50 shows, but Gongaware said AEG Live was interested in more Gongaware said the Dangerous tour lost money due to cancellations. He said he thought HIStory nearly broke even. Gongaware worked on Dangerous, HIStory" and one Jacksons tour back in the 80s. Michael's primary concern was not making money off his shows, Gongaware said. His primary concern was with the art, the performance "This Is It was supposed to be spectacular", Gongaware said. He would be doing 8-10 shows a month, so about 3 a week. Gongaware said he never saw Michael take drugs. Aside from drug use in 93, Gongaware said he didn't have any other knowledge of his using drugs. "He was lively, engaged, he seemed happy," Gongaware said about Michael Putnam asked Gongaware about the day he thought Jackson was impaired after an appointment with Dr. Arnold Klein. The questions prompted a sidebar. He said Jackson "wasn't quite the same" but didn't testify about Jackson's demeanor in detail. He was told Michael was at Dr. Klein's office. Gongaware said he was not familiar with the doctors who treated Michael. Putnam announced be had no more questions at this time Jackson redirect In response to Panish questions, Gongaware said This Is It was only the second tour that AEG Live would promote and produce Panish asked if the exec was concerned about Michael. "I certainly wanted him to do well".Brian Panish asked Gongaware a couple different ways if he was concerned about Jackson's mother & children. Gongaware looked up toward the celiling and then said he'd thought about it and he was concerned about Jackson's mom & children "I believe he was a good father," Gongaware said about Michael Jackson. Panish: "Did you know he was a great son to his mother?"Panish asked if Gongaware ever called Katherine Jackson to express his condolences. The executive said no. Gongaware said he also didn't think that he sent Katherine Jackson or Jackson's children a condolence card. Panish: "After Michael died, did you ever send a card to his mother?"Panish asked Gongaware several questions about the executive changing elements of his deposition testimony. "I believe I testified truthfully," Gongaware said. "I don't believe I changed my testimony substantially." Panish then started pointing out what he said were inconsistencies in Gongaware's testimony This led to questions about whether Gongaware was mistaken when he wrote in an email that AEG was paying Conrad Murray's salary. Gongaware said he didn't necessarily think he was mistaken. He also said he didn't remember writing the email. As to the email Gongaware wrote that AEG, not Michael paid Dr. Murray. Panish asked again if Gongaware recalled writing this email. He said no. Gongaware said he spent 2 days with his lawyers preparing for his deposition, one-two hours discussing the email about AEG paying Dr. Murray. Panish pointed out several answers Gongaware gave on his deposition and the changes he asked to make to the transcript after meeting with attorneys. Panish said Gongaware changed his testimony several times as a result of meeting with AEG's attorneys. Panish said Gongaware also changed his testimony again while on the stand and under oath. Panish tried to impeach Gongaware, which is a legal way to call into question the witness' credibility. Later in the case, the judge will instruct the jurors that if they think a person lied, they may disconsider part of all of his testimony. As to the email about AEG paying Dr. Murray, Panish pointed out that Gongaware changed his answers several times throughout his testimony. One time he said the email was shorthanded, normal course of business and didn't really think it was a mistake. Yesterday, Gongaware answered the same question saying he was mistaken when he said AEG was paying Dr. Murray. Gongaware explained he thinks he said the same thing but different ways. Gongaware was also asked about a key email he wrote that has come up several other times during the trial. Talking about Murray, he wrote: We want to remind him that it is AEG, not Michael who is paying his salary. We want him to understand what is expected of him Panish: "Do you have any idea why you might have written that AEG is paying his salary?"Panish then asked Gongaware about Lou Ferrigno and whether he was an employee of AEG Live. Gongaware said no, reiterating his previous testimony that he made a deal with Ferrigno. He said Ferrigno would have been an independent contractor. Panish asked whether Ferrigno had a contract with AEG Live. Gongaware said he didn't know. Panish asked Gongaware if he hired Lou Ferrigno to be Michael's trainer. "I made a deal for Michael," Gongaware said. Ferrigno was an independent contractor, Gongaware said he didn't know whether Ferrigno was submitting bills to his office. Panish: "So you stiffed Lou Ferrigno, you didn't pay the Incredible Hulk?"(Everyone in the courtroom laughed out loud)Panish said Gongaware testified yesterday that he was not concerned with Michael because he was working out with a trainer. Today Gongaware testified Michael was going to work out with Lou Ferrigno. Gongaware said he didn't know whether Ferrigno had an independent contract agreement or not and if he got paid. Panish inquired about AEG only paying people with fully executed contract. Gongaware said he didn't know the status of Ferrigno's contract. "I don't know specifically when Mr. Jackson saw trainers, but I believe he was seeing trainers," Gongaware explained. Panish: "He was seeing Lou Ferrigno to be in the next Incredible Hulk?"Panish said Gongaware testified he was not concerned about Michael because he was working out with Lou Ferrigno. He said he didn't say that. "When he was sick on June 19, I didn't know what was happening," Gongaware explained. "After that, Michael was great." Panish asked whether he ever received Conrad Murray's contract. Gongaware, when shown an email from June 16, 2009, that included Murray's contract, said he didn't generally read contracts. "Dr Murray wasn't supposed to get paid. If Michael would've signed the deal, Dr Murray would've been paid for his work in London," Gongaware said . Panish: "You didn't have time to ready budgets, you didn't have time to read contracts, right?"Panish asked if Gongaware had any document to prove that Dr. Murray was told that anyone else, but AEG, was paying him. Gongaware didn't recall. Panish: "Did you have anything in writing saying it was Michael, not AEG, paying Dr. Murray?"Gongaware said he believed Dr. Murray signed one version of the contract, but doesn't know whether the one showed to him was it. Gongaware said he knew of no document that said his company's payments to Conrad Murray were actually part of a loan to Michael. Gongaware, on the stand for the sixth day, said he didn't know what Murray assumed about who was paying him. The jury was shown an email from Timm Wooley, the AEG accountant on Jackson's This Is It concert series sent Murray June 6, 2009: "I am sorry for the long delay in getting this to you, but I hope that, with your input and comments, we can dispose of the agreement quickly and arrange for payment of the May & June fee installment"Gongaware testified that although he made the deal with Murray, and that the contract was emailed to him in 2009, his court appearance was the first time he had seen it. Gongaware repeated his contention as he has throughout his testimony, that "He was working for Michael Jackson. He wasn't working for us" The contract shown to the jury said it was between AEG Live and Murray. The contract also said Murray was to "Perform the Services reasonably requested by Producers" (AEG). Trell testified earlier that this was one of several mistakes in a draft that would have been cleaned up in the final version Panish: "You expected Dr Murray, just like Ferrigno, to get paid for services provided to AEG right sir?"Gongaware said he was tasked to make the deal, determine compensation for Dr. Murray. Panish: "If he was Michael's personal doctor, why hire him?"Panish asked Gongaware about his contention that Jackson was always able to perform and nail shows when necessary Gongaware repeated he believed when lights went on, Michael was always there. Panish pointed out Michael canceled several shows on the Dangerous tour. The lawyer cited several shows over Jackson's career that he missed: Bangkok, South America and the need to move a couple in Mexico City. Panish then asked Gongaware about Dr. Stuart Finkelstein, who the lawyer kept referring to as Gongaware's friend of 25 years. Finkelstein, a possible witness in the trial, was on the last leg of the Dangerous tour before it was canceled. Gongaware said Dr. Finkelstein is now a drug addiction specialist. "There were two occasions where he (Dr. Finkelstein) told me he treated Michael, but never talked about Demerol or injections," Gongaware said. "I believe he's mistaken," Gongaware said if Dr. Finkelstein gave deposition to the contrary. Panish: "Did Dr. Finkelstein tell you he put MJ on a 24 hour morphine drip?"Gongaware denied that Finkelstein told him that he thought Jackson was suffering from a prescription drug addiction. He also denied that Finkelstein told him that another doctor on the Dangerous tour was giving Jackson Demerol shots. Dr. Forecast, from London, was Michael's doctor treating the artist during Dangerous tour Gongaware said he was never alarmed about Jackson's health and said he saw him as being well Panish: "Is safety paramount to AEG live?"Gongaware said he didn't know if there was a person in charge of safety at rehearsals Panish: "In your opinion, this is a baseless, shakedown lawsuit?"Regarding whether Jackson's children suffered a loss after their father's death, Gongaware said: "I believe they suffered a great loss"Gongaware agreed that the best recollection of what happened in 2009 is the emails, but said he remembers from his head too. "He was always amazing," Gongaware said about Michael. Gongaware: "I thought he was great"Gongaware said the demand for tickets to Michael's memorial service was huge, comparable to the demand for the This Is It tour. Gongaware said the amount of people still in line to buy tickets for This Is It could've sold out 100 shows. (ABC7) Panish: "Do you remember what you said Elvis died of?"But Panish recalled Gongaware giving a different answer earlier on, saying he believed it was prescription drugs Gongaware was asked about extending the This Is It tour. He was shown emails from promoters wanting Michael concerts in India, Australia. Gongaware said he would have liked the "This Is It" tour to continue, but they only had agreement for 50 shows. On 3/18/09 -- asking about MJ going to India for the show, Phillips responded: "Thanks, Thomas. Michael will definitely be heading your way"Gongaware said he thinks they were making plans in case Michael said ok, let's go. Email on 3/17/09 from Phillips: "We have a 4 year plan that includes Australia, however, we have to finish London first.Gongaware, who didn't like Australian's promoter, responded: "Over my dead body. But let's see what he says before I p**s on his parade." Panish: "Did you ever see Michael under the influence of prescription medication in June 2009?" Panish: "Your goal was to have as many shows as possible?"Panish asked Gongaware if he had talked to Phillips since he'd been on the witness stand. He said he hadn't discussed the case. Panish then asked if Phillips was aware Gongaware said he was content with AEG Live being #2 concert promoter behind Live Nation. Gongaware said he's expressed his opinion that AEG Live doesn't need to be the #1 promoter AEG recross Marvin Putnam, in re-direct, asked Gongaware if he tried to give his best testimony possible in deposition. Gongaware said "Yes" He asked Gongaware why he never sent a condolence card to Jackson's family. "I'm not good with cards", he said. He said the memorial service was how he wanted to honor the singer. Gongaware said he spent a lot of time thinking about Jackson after his death "What I did, I tried to put the memorial show together," Gongaware said. "I think it was the best thing for me to do, commemorate his life." Memorial was at the Staples Center with 15,000 people, live fed to Nokia Theater with 5,000 people. Gongaware said he worked directly with Randy Jackson on the memorial. It cost over a million dollars, AEG and Michael's estate bore the cost. "I'm glad I did what I did," Gongaware said, adding memorial was shown to millions of people interested in Michael around the world Putnam tried to rebut all the claims that Gongaware changed his testimony. Gongaware said he feels he hasn't changed his answers Putnam also showed jury Gongaware's police statement. Panish had said his comment to police was different from testimony. Panish keyed in on whether Gongaware testified that it was five weeks or two weeks between his first two conversations with Conrad Murray. The police statement said Gongaware told detectives a few weeks separated the calls regarding Murray and the contract Another document that defense attorney Marvin Putnam showed Gongaware was Lou Ferrigno's contract. Ferrigno's three-page contract designated him as an independent contractor. It was signed by AEG accounting exec Julie Hollander. Putnam showed an independent contract agreement with Ferrigno fully executed. Julie Hollander signed on behalf of AEG effective April 27, 2009 Putnam finished his examination of Gongaware by showing him Conrad Murray's contract. Putnam questioned Gongaware about Dr. Murray's contract. The exec said Michael had to sign it in order for it to be valid. Putnam showed Gongaware language in the agreement that said Michael Jackson had to sign the agreement for it to be a valid contract. Putnam also keyed in on language that said Murray was being engaged "on behalf and at the expense of Michael Jackson" Jackson redirect Then it was Panish's turn again. He said there isn't a date on the contract showing when Julie Hollander signed Ferrigno's agreement. Panish questioned Gongaware about whether Ferrigno's contract may have been signed after Jackson's death. Gongaware said he didn't think he sent any contracts to Julie Hollander after Jackson's death. Panish pointed out that Hollander was signing contracts after Michaelhad died. He asked to see the original contract. Panish: "Lou Ferrigno was retained by AEG, right?"Panish asked Gongaware whether he thought it would have been better for him if he had reviewed documents and e-mails before testifying. "I relied on the advice of my attorney," he said. "All this legal stuff, I don't understand it," he said. Gongaware said he expected his lawyers would act on his best interest and that he testified truthfully and factually in his deposition. Panish asked if Gongaware expected to be believed now when he wouldn't recall his answers in deposition. Defendant objected, judge sustained Panish also repeatedly referred to the number of AEG Live defense lawyers in the courtroom. He was later admonished to stop mentioning them. Putnam had noted that Katherine Jackson's side was being represented by four law firms. Panish said he didn't care if Putnam brought it up With that Paul Gongaware was excused, subject to recall if needed. Randy Phillips Testimony Phillips said he met with six attorneys to prep for testimony between 6-8 times over the last two weeks, probably for about 30 hours. Phillips said he went through a bunch of emails, probably 30, from the period in question. He also read his deposition. Randy Phillips, the chief executive officer of AEG Live, disclosed that his lawyers advised company executives not to review old e-mails before testifying. "They felt it would be better if I went in without preparation," he said, referring to his lawyers. (AEG Live lawyer Marvin Putman said outside of court that the volume of documents they would have needed to review was massive, making it impossible for them to prepare. ) Panish asked Phillips whether he was eager to tell his side of the story. "I believe you called me as a witness, so I'm here," Phillips said flatly Phillips attended two years of law school, but didn't graduate. Panish: "Who's higher up than you at AEG Live?"Phillips reports to an executive committee who would then report to Tim Leiweke. Phillips said he doesn't know why Leiweke left the company. Phil Anschutz now belongs to the executive committee. Panish at one point asked the executive whether he was familiar with the music industry. "Familiar with the music industry? I was working in it," Phillips replied. Phillips said he agreed with statements attributed to him and defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam that the case was a shakedown. Panish: "Do you think this is an extortion, shakedown lawsuit?" Panish: "You told Mr. Ortega that AEG checked everyone out, including Dr. Murray?" Panish: "Isn't it true you said AEG live doesn't lose money, sir?"Panish showed Phillips a Forbes article where he said AEG is about making money, since they are a business. Phillips: "Live Nation is the largest concert promoter in the world"Phillips said Mr. Anschutz told him he's happy being a number 2 Panish asked if it was true Phillips wanted to meet with Michael to tour in 2007. Phillips answered it was the opposite, they asked for a meeting. Jackson lawyer Brian Panish, who has been previously told by the judge not to argue with witnesses, quickly tangled with Phillips. "Please don't argue with me because then I will argue back and get in trouble," Panish told Phillips at one point. "Then that's an incentive for me," Phillips joked (everyone laughed) Panish: "Did you learn Colony Capital purchase note on Neverland?"On 6/13/08, Phillips sent an email to Colony Capital with a summation of plans for Michael for four years: I caution you that Michael is not fast and a total perfectionist (needs to be controlled as much as possible)Phillips said he was referring to Michael's spending Panish: "Neverland was his beloved home, right sir?"When the executive appeared to crack a smile, Panish asked if he thought the proceedings were funny. Phillips:"No, I think it's tragic"Tohme Tohme was a business associate with Colony Capital, who was also working with Michael. Panish asked if Phillips thought there was a conflict of interest with Tohme working for Colony and Michael. He said "No" Court Transcript |
2023.06.03 13:03 FelicitySmoak_ On This Day In Michael Jackson HIStory - June 3rd
 | 1972 - "I Wanna Be Where You Are" by Michael enters the Billboard US Hot Soul Singles Chart, where it will make a 12 week run for the #2 poisiton. submitted by FelicitySmoak_ to MichaelJackson [link] [comments] 1972 - "Got To Be There", the 1st solo album by Michael, enters the UK's Top 50 albums chart, where it will peak at #37 during a fiveweek run. 1973 - "Lookin' Through the Windows" by The Jackson 5 on the Motown label hits the Billboard music charts at #94, where it peaks at #7. It remains on the chart for 33 weeks. 1979 - The Jackson perform their Destiny tour at Carolina Coliseum in Columbia, South Carolina. They give a press interview at the Carolina Inn https://preview.redd.it/pevzonw90p3b1.jpg?width=826&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4557c94ddd96d571083a69d61648f2b1da0b318 1990- Michael collapses while dancing at his Westwood condo known as 'The Hideout'. He is taken to St John Hospital of Los Angeles around 9pm where he is treated for chest pains. He gets visits from the whole Jackson family (except LaToya, who sends him a dozen black roses) .Elizabeth Taylor also visits him. She had been in the hospital undergoing treatment for a near fatal bout of pneumonia since mid April. “According to his physician, he is in stable condition and appropriate tests are being conducted", nursing officials said in a prepared statement. 1992- At the Tavern On The Green in New York City, the One To One award is given to Michael by the Operation One to One organization in charge with creating better living standards for young people, for efforts committed to helping economically disadvantaged youth. Michael attends the Operation One To One Honors dinner with friends Elizabeth Taylor and Donald Trump. https://preview.redd.it/amyehkyc0p3b1.jpg?width=796&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efde03bd756b379198db612aaca5d89944821a66 https://preview.redd.it/f5wfjhke0p3b1.jpg?width=689&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab01c0a625c174290b7c7bd6b2cfca0a0ab25cf1 1992 - Crystal Cartier filed a $40 million federal lawsuit against Michael Jackson, Sony Music Entertainment, MJJ Productions and Epic Records. She alleged that she originally wrote and recorded "Dangerous." In February of 1994, a Denver Federal court jury ruled in Michael's favor 1995 - The Hollywood Chamber of Commerce rejects Michael's application to cover up the famous 'Hollywood' sign with the word 'HIStory' to promote his new compilation album 1997 - Michael Jackson plays the Mungersdorfer (now RheinEnergieStadionStadium) in Cologne, Germany, to an audience of 60,000 on the HIStory World Tour https://preview.redd.it/uvij16ug0p3b1.jpg?width=143&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=025eefd461e2750007d815abc50701398a09f4d5 https://preview.redd.it/w82z1dgh0p3b1.jpg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7f536d84b116ecb748361a7620bc030783b5dc4 https://preview.redd.it/vetxb87i0p3b1.jpg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd578aef6dc5a0aa49ffeb709f61858dd559d0d3 https://preview.redd.it/nrxko7xi0p3b1.jpg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3735e8bdfa8770c510fc9f333334a994d0b0daba 2005 - Trial Day 67 Michael goes to court with Katherine, Joe, Janet and LaToya. https://preview.redd.it/vaspltik0p3b1.jpg?width=448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=311e351bf79f39a8d48cf4681686247b2f20fb19 Michael was greeted outside court by hundreds of chanting fans. He arrived with his parents and his famous siblings - Janet, LaToya, Jermaine, Tito and Randy. They waved to the fans chants of Michael is Innocent! https://preview.redd.it/p8jtchhn0p3b1.jpg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cb1c23e69cfefb6e4608aa16b3650011976c106 Defense attorneys completed their closing arguments, labeling the Arvizo family liars and con artists trying to pull the biggest con of their careers. "They are trying to take advantage of Michael Jackson," said impassioned defense attorney Thomas Mesereau. "They are trying to profit from Michael Jackson. They think they have pulled it off. They are just waiting for one thing - your verdict." "What they are trying to do to Michael Jackson is so harmful, so brutal, so devastating if you have any reasonable doubt about the double-talk, the lies, its over. You must acquit Michael Jackson," he told the 12 jurors. Mesereau spoke about the American system of justice and said, "We have the best system in the world and ladies and gentlemen I'm begging you to honor the system. You must acquit him." He accused prosecutors of trying to "dirty up Michael" because they lack the evidence to prove their case. "The witnesses are preposterous, the perjury is everywhere," Mesereau declared. "None of it works. The only thing they've had is to throw dirt all over the place and hope it sticks." He added: "If you look in your hearts do you believe Michael Jackson is evil in that way? Is it even possible? It really is not." Mesereau then played excerpts from a video in which Jackson denies any sexual impropriety and said that he had never been betrayed or deceived by children. The defense attorney conceded that Jackson had been lax with his money and had let the wrong people into his circle. But, he said, the singer was not the monster the prosecution were trying to depict and that he was not guilty of any crime. Afterwards, prosecutor Ron Zonen delivered a brief rebuttal. He sought to answer the question of Jacksons motivation for the crime asking, "Why would Mr. Jackson do it? Because he could This child was in love with him. This child would do anything he said." Zonen reminded jurors of the past allegations made against Jackson saying that this was necessary in order to see the total picture. He claimed that Jackson was in love with his 1993 accuser and added that the current accuser is a clone of the boy in that case. After both sides rested for the last time, Judge Rodney Melville ordered the eight women and four men on the jury to begin their deliberations. He gave them a 98-page book of instructions. The Judge told Jackson that he could stay at Neverland during the proceedings but requested that the attorneys remain within 10 minutes of the courthouse in case the jurors had any questions. These deliberations are the final stage of an ordeal that began 14 weeks ago. During this time the jury has heard testimony from over 130 witnesses. A verdict was expected early next week. Court Transcript While Jury deliberations take place, the whole Jackson family waits for the verdict at Neverland. https://preview.redd.it/lh5l7gqo0p3b1.jpg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5967b6b6c73b0a56bec2b5b8e28f20e68b9ddb7 2008 - Michael has dinner with Thomas Barrack Jr, chairman and CEO of Colony Capital LLC, at the Las Vegas Hilton's Verona Sky Villa. 2009 - Michael goes to Culver Studios with Prince, Paris & Kenny Ortega, where he shoots “The Drill” 3D https://preview.redd.it/5lzzqj2t0p3b1.jpg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8747a49dd0f9c68ae73b6f93fa21e2f9e01b6a77 https://preview.redd.it/hezl4ayt0p3b1.jpg?width=199&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1dae7ef1a99ee196a5be6dbfb8cd5ab243856f58 He also, once again, goes to Dr Klein’s in Beverly Hills. 2013 - Jackson v AEG Trial Day 22 No Jackson family member was at the courthouse. Paul Gongaware AEG cross Putnam asked Gongaware if MJ was comfortable with all the show dates. "Yes, I went through all of the dates with him," Gongaware said. Bugzee, the tour manager, had a big calendar on the walls, Gongaware explained, saying they changed the dates of the shows four times. The jury was shown an email in which Gongaware worked with a staffer to create a calendar to show Jackson. He wanted colors changed. He wanted the calendar to be changed so that it reflected Jackson's show dates and off days differently. Gongaware email: Figure it out so it looks like he's not working so muchAs to the email, Putnam asked if he was trying to fool Michael: "No, I was trying to make it clear, trying to get it just the way I wanted it," Gongaware responded.After changing 4 show dates Gongaware said Michael was comfortable with it. He would do 8 shows in July, 10 in August, 9 in September. There would be no shows in October, November and December, resuming with 10 shows in January, 10 in February and three in March. No back-to-back shows. Gongaware said the O2 Arena had a previous commitment in Oct-Dec of 2009 and they could not have the concerts. Putnam: "Was this a rigorous schedule?"Gongaware recalled that on the HIStory tour they did 10-12 shows per month, from country to country, but this one would stay in London only. Gongaware said he wasn't concerned with Michael's age. "He seemed great to me," he said, and this was stationary show, didn't have to travel. Gongaware: The reason Michael wanted to delay the 1st show was he wanted more time to rehearse in the O2 Arena where the show would take place.He said Michael and Kenny Ortega would decide the rehearsal schedule. Gongaware explained Michael didn't have to attend rehearsals, since it was not part of his deal. He said they never require an artist to rehearse. "I didn't have any expectation," Gongaware said regarding Michael rehearsing. He said he's never seen a requirement for a musicial artist to rehearse & that during the HIStory tour, Michael didn't rehearse but nailed it. "When it was game time, he would show up," Gongaware explained. For instance, Gongaware cited an outdoor concert in Bangkok in high heat, humidity. As to the email Gongaware wrote about calling Michael lazy, he said he used unfortunate choices of words, Michael didn't like to rehearse. Talking about the elements of the show, Gongaware described what they wanted to do for the opening of the show. He said Michael would be dressed up in a LED suit, like a television, flashing on him brief movie about things that happened in history. Michael would be lowered down onto the stage. He called the LED suit a "Moon man" suit, but Ortega called it "Light man." Putnam showed a presentation of how the LED suit idea would work. Footage is not on This Is It documentary because it was early stages of prep. Gongaware said the 1st idea was to make Michael float from the audience, but they couldn't make it work. So they decided to lower him down onto the stage. Gongaware said the big screen on the back of the stage was 3D capable. The audience would be given glasses when they entered the show. The 3D songs would be Thriller, Earth Song and Smooth Criminal. "He wanted to do biggest, best show ever, live show," Gongaware said Putnam showed email chain from Ortega to Gongaware asking to make a deal with choreographer Travis Payne. Answer from Gongaware: This is not AEG money, it's Michael's money so it takes a lot of time to get approvalsDefendants were trying to establish a pattern that all the money spent was actually Michael's money, not AEG's, just like with Dr. Murray At one point Gongaware said he learned from Michael about a doctor named Murray. "He came to me and said he wanted his personal doctor on the tour". Gongaware said he suggested to Michael to get a licensed doctor in London who would know the lay of the land, in case of need. "This is the machine, we have to take care of the machine. I want Conrad," Gongaware said Michael responded. I think what he meant was his brain could create it but his body had to deliver the show every night Putnam: "Were you surprised he wanted to take his doctor on tour?"Gongaware said other artists take doctors as well, so he was not the only one and it didn't surprise him. Gongaware said he's been on tour before where an artist had chiropractors, but couldn't remember being in one with a doctor Putnam: "Did you worry Michael might have a health issue?"Gongaware said the suggestion for a London doctor was due to the cost; paying a doctor full time was much more expensive than hiring a local doctor. Gongaware said Dr. Murray treated Michael for about three years before 2009. He knew the doctor was from Las Vegas but said he was in LA. Gongaware said he then called Dr. Murray to work out a deal. Gongaware testified he didn't have Michael's direct phone number, would go through Michael Amir Williams, his personal assistant, to reach him. Gongaware called Murray on behalf of Michael saying the singer wanted to take him to London. "What do you want to be paid for that," Gongaware asked. Gongaware said he thought Dr. Murray was expecting his call and was aware of the desire to take him on tour. "He said he would need $5 million," Gongaware recalled. "He said he has 4 clinics to close, would lay off people, needs $5 million for that." Asked by Putnam if Murray's price was reasonable: "It was ridiculous," Gongaware said about the amount asked. "It was a lot of money for something like that and Michael could not afford it." Gongaware said he responded that it wasn't going to work" He said this was the first time he spoke with Dr. Murray. After that, Gongaware said he told Michael Amir and Randy Phillips what the doctor had asked. He also told Frank DiLeo. Gongaware said a lot of people who wanted to work for MJ asked for huge sums of money, thinking he had a lot. Putnam: "Would you be doing this if Michael had not asked you?""He was Michael's doctor, Michael wanted him. That was it," Gongaware said. Putnam:" Did you think about checking the doctor?"" I'm not going to tell Michael Jackson who his doctor should be," Gongaware explained. "It wasn't my place to say who his doctor was going to be," Gongaware said. "It was his decision." Gongaware said he doesn't think a doctor's financial situation has anything to do with being an ethical doctor. Gongaware said it never crossed his mind to either do a background check on Dr. Murray or to suggest to anyone to do it. "I just expect doctors to be ethical, the financial side of their lives shouldn't have an impact on their medical decision," Gongaware opined. Gongaware said he never did a background check on anyone he hired and had he done one on Dr. Murray, it would've been out of the ordinary. He also said he never considered performing background checks on Jackson's makeup artist, a choreographer who worked one-on-one with the singer or Kenny Ortega, the tour's director. "I didn't see the need for it," he said. Dr. Finkelstein, a friend of Gongaware, said a doctor should charge $10,000 a month for the tour work. But Dr. Finkelstein would've done it for free, since he was on the Dangerous tour before and had a lot of fun The second call about Dr. Murray came from Michael Amir Williams saying they were going to need to get a deal done for the doctor. Gongaware said he heard Michael in the car saying "offer 150, offer 150." Gongaware understood that to be $150k/month. Gongaware called Dr. Murray, said he was authorized to offer him $150k a month. He said Dr. Murray responded that he couldn't do it for that. Gongaware told him the offer came directly from the artist and Dr. Murray responded: "I'll take it" Gongaware said Michael approved the amount of compensation. "Michael told me offer 150," Gongaware recalled. "And that's what I did." Gongaware inquired from Dr. Murray how he would get a license in London and the doctor told him not to worry about it. They talked about Dr. Murray's request for a house in London, and the doctor said he would need a three bedroom house. Gongaware recalled Dr. Murray saying he would probably need an assistant and some equipment, but no details were given at this point. After the call, Gongaware said he let Michael Amir Williams know what the result was in a May 6th email: Done at 150k per month, per MJ. He needs about 10 days to wind down his practice then he will be full time Asked why he had negotiated with Murray, the AEG executive replied that he was "instructed to by Michael Jackson." Gongaware said there was no other reason for him to deal with the doctor. Marvin Putnam asked Gongaware why he didn't tell Jackson he couldn't take Murray on tour with him."Because he could if he wanted," Gongaware said. Gongaware said he passed Dr. Murray on to Timm Wooley, never had any other conversation with Dr. Murray about him possibly going to London. Putnam: "Do you have any understanding as to whether a contract with Dr. Murray was executed?"Gongaware said Michael was ultimately responsible for his own health: "I think everyone is responsible for their own health and well being. He was a grown man with the capability to make decisions regarding his health and medical care"Putnam showed Gongaware a frame from the This Is It film in which Jackson's manager, Frank Dileo, was sitting in on dancer auditions. Dancers auditions took place at the Nokia Theater on April 13, 14 & 15. Michael attended the last day and made the final decision, Gongaware said. He said Ortega wanted to film the audition to use fresh footage on michaeljacksonlive.com. The cost for crew to shoot the audition was very high, so Gongaware bought a couple of cameras and used his own crew to shoot the rehearsals. He said he wasn't sure what he would use the video for, but thought the website would be a good platform. Gongaware said during the period at Center Staging, Michael was good, engaging, didn't think there were any health issues or was using drugs Gongaware said the media in the UK was going wild with gossip about Michael Jackson. "They just lie about things." The Sun claimed Michael had skin cancer on his chest. "It was sport over in London," Gongaware said about stories on tabloids. Gongaware testified about emails in which UK press agents working on This Is It sent him tabloid reports on Michael's health. Gongaware said he urged the press agents not to respond. He wanted Jackson's performance to speak for itself & silence skeptics. Gongaware on 5/27/09: The Kid is healthy and rehearsing every day. He was still there at dance rehearsals at 9pm last night when I left. Our redemption will be when he does his shows, that makes all of this build up so damn sweet. We don't have to sell tickets, so we can just sit back and prove them wrong by just doing it.Gongaware said he was not concerned "If there was something going on, if he had cancer, we would've heard about it."Michael Jackson rehearsal venues:
Putnam went through a chain of emails about tabloid reports in the UK regarding Michael. In one, it said Michael had asked AEG to reduce the number of shows by half. Gongaware said that such a discussion never happened. Gongaware testified he woke up to one gossip headline pretty much every day. His idea was simply to ignore the tabloids. "An amazing show would be the answer", Gongaware said Gongaware on 6/5/09 in response to Sunday Mirror Query: "We can only make this work, of course, if MJ puts on the best show of his life. I'm here to tell you that be will. I have seen it for myself. Last night he ran 9 songs with full band, singers and dancers. Sang every one, he was amazing, captivating, riveting. And he's just getting started. Taking it one step further. When people realize that bulls**t the press has been, they will be in receptive mood for the truth Hey look. No skin cancer. He's just a good dad, loving raising his kids. His art and his craft are paramount. A gentle, loving man who does care about people"The shows were going to be spectacular," Gongaware said. Putnam showed a clip of Michael in front of a green screen with 11 dancers, who would become 11,000. Gongaware said Michael was great at this point Regarding email Phillips sent Gongaware directing to remove Michael's "skeletal" scenes Gongaware said he didn't take anything out of the movie. Putnam: "Did you remove anything from the movie?"Putnam showed a clip from This Is It with the making of "Thriller 3D" and Jackson wearing red jacket. Putnam: "Did you try to alter in anyway how Mr. Jackson looked, appeared?"Gongaware said he didn't remember any of the footage been removed because of how Michael looked. "We just let the footage speak for itself" The mini-movie of "Earth Song" a bulldozer would come out from a ramp in center stage. Putnam: "A real bulldozer?"Gongaware said they had to build the bulldozer like a prop. It would appear at the end of the song on stage. "I think the live audience would be just captivated by it," Gongaware said about the little girl running after the last plant on Earth song. End of the show would be 3D animation. An airplane taxis up, door opens, Michael entered the plane. The airplane door closes, Michael would actually take an elevator down and out of the building, but the plane would take off over the audience Gongaware said he didn't know if anyone was responsible for Michael's nourishment. Tour would be demanding and exhausting Gongaware said he met Dr. Murray once at MJ's Carolwood house and ran into him at The Forum during rehearsal. There was a meeting scheduled to discuss Michael's nutrition with Randy Phillips, Kenny Ortega, Dr. Murray, Michael, Gongaware and DiLeo. Putnam: "Do you recall anyone in that meeting ever telling Dr. Murray how he should be treating Michael?"Gongaware said he didn't have any medical training and wasn't qualified to tell Conrad Murray how to treat Jackson Gongaware said neither Dr. Murray nor Michael talked about the treatment he was receiving. The meeting was about nutrition & vitamin therapy. Gongaware said he had no idea Dr. Murray was giving Michael Propofol and first heard of the anesthetic after Michael died. Gongaware said Dr. Murray was really engaged in the meeting, seemed like a very intelligent guy and wanted to take care of Michael very much. This was the first time Gongaware met with Dr. Murray. He said there were no signs of Michael being poorly treated by the doctor. "Michael was engaged in the meeting, attentive, seemed happy we were having this meeting," Gongaware opined. "He's a doctor, he'd know better than anybody how to treat his patient," Gongaware said about Dr. Murray. As to Gongaware's email saying AEG, not Michael, paid Dr Murray he said he was mistaken. "We wouldn't pay his salary, we'd advance Michael's money". Gongaware said he didn't remember writing/receiving the email, but never denied he did it. As to Michael being habitually late, Gongaware said the singer worked on his own schedule, did things his way Gongaware said his understanding was that Michael hired a trainer of his choice, Louis (Lou) Ferrigno: "I made the deal with him (Ferrigno). He was supposed to be paid a certain amount of money per session" He didn't elaborate on fee, how many times he worked with Michael. Putnam showed an email from Travis Payne, he suggested a massage chair to be put in Michael's dressing room.As to Bugzee's email saying MJ needed cheeseburgers, brats and beers, Gongaware said Bugzee was joking, Bugzee cared very much for Michael. Gongaware testified he didn't recall having any concern about Michael's health/using painkillers as of Monday 6/15/09, 10 days prior to his death Gongaware was asked about several emails that have been shown before, including messages related to MJ missing rehearsal on June 19, 2009. The executive was on the East Coast for a family wedding, but responded to one message questioning why Murray wasn't at rehearsal. Gongaware email: Take the doctor with you. Why wasn't he there last night?He then explained his thinking to the jury. Gongaware: If his patient is having a problem and he's sick, and he's his only patient, it seemed like he should be thereGongaware said on 6/19/09, he was out of town. "This is the day Michael had chills at rehearsal and was apparently sick," Gongaware recalled. "If the meeting was going to be about what happened that night, the doctor should be there," Gongaware said. Gongaware said he believed Michael wanted to go on tour. He said he doesn't remember anyone talking about pulling the plug on the shows. Putnam: "Did anyone tell you at this point that Michael needed a drug addiction specialist?"Gongaware said that on 6/20/09 he did not think Michael's health was deteriorating. With last questions of the day, Putnam asked Gongaware if he was concerned about Jackson's well-being. He said "Yes" Court Transcript |
2023.06.02 11:53 narrator_uncredited Thoughts and questions after watching LN and listening to Telephone Stories
Just to get it out of the way at the start, I believe his victims and that Jackson did all of it. Over the years I've been curious about the child sexual abuse cases against him, and made the major error of relying on Wikipedia, which I now realized is biased in his favor. It really is hard to wrap my head around, so there's a tiny part of me telling me it can't be possible, but it's just plainly clear.
My head is sort of spinning from all the evidence and supposed rebuttals, and I have so many questions and thoughts swirling around. Please excuse me for any incorrect info, I'll correct it. Thank you to anyone who actually reads this, haha.
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My head is sort of spinning from all the evidence and supposed rebuttals, and I have so many questions and thoughts swirling around. Please excuse me for any incorrect info, I'll correct it. Thank you to anyone who actually reads this, haha.
- The glass closet: This is an LGBTQ term referring to people who don't explicitly come out but where their orientation/identity is an open secret, like that aunt who shares a bedroom with her best friend. I'm not old enough to remember how publicly known it was that he was spending so much time with specific kids, but it seems that at least in his private life, he openly acted as these guys were actual romantic relationships and "dated" them by taking them to events. Was his goal to normalize it and have it be an open secret, or was he making any effort to conceal the extent of the relationships? The report from the World Music Awards really makes it seem like he did not give a flying fuck about being caught.
- The Jehovah's Witnesses link: Wondering what information there is out there on this. From my basic understanding, there are multiple elements in JW that lead to child abuse being swept under the rug. Could Jackson have targeted JW kids knowing that it would be easier to cover up? EDIT: There's no evidence that he targeted JW kids.
- None of the five victims that we know of has recanted. They would have to all be pretty cold, brilliant sociopaths to never crack. According to Jackson in the Bashir doc, "very few" boys have shared his bed. So out of just those we know were long-term abusive relationships, we have Wade Robson, Jordan Chandler, and James Safechuck saying he abused them. Macaulay Culkin, Brett Barnes, and Omer Bhatti (I think?) totally deny it. And Jonathan Spence has stayed quiet. That is a pretty wild ratio. Guess Jackson was just really unlucky in his choice of special friends.
- "And we'd wake up at dawn, and we'd go in the hot air balloon": This line from Living with MJ shows him trying to act like an amazed child. It's so transparent that I'm both embarrassed the world fell for it, and disgusted.
- Gavin's and Jackson's fingerprints on the same magazine. The idea that Gavin and Star found the magazine that belonged to Jackson on their own suggests that it was easily accessible and isn't much of a defense -- leaving adult material in a place kids can easily access sounds like grooming behavior to me, even if he didn't directly give it to Gavin (which he did, of course).
- The wine in the soda cans: Regardless of whether he shared the wine, it's a massive red flag that he's trying to hide the fact that he's drinking alcohol from children while spending time with them. Children in my family are perfectly aware that adults drink wine and they can't. Why hide it?
- I've heard the damning book had an inscription in it that proved it wasn't part of the library bought together with the house (which, lol). Is this true? EDIT: Yep, he personally got and inscribed Boys Will Be Boys. The phrase "my children" in the inscription is very creepy to me.
- So, the working-class and middle-class victims and witnesses are supposedly all money-grubbing sociopaths, who decided to go against a very powerful figure with the best legal team money can buy. If the Jackson family is altruistic, why are they still trying to make as much money as possible from him posthumously, including suing his estate? Are his kids going to lack for money? Are they just money-grubbers?
- Did the estate's lawsuit against HBO get resolved? EDIT: Went to arbitration, resolution unknown.
- Why did Katherine Jackson recently file a motion to keep documents sealed because of "sensitive information regarding Ms. Jackson’s family and private life,” when they're about a posthumous deal to sell some of his catalog?
- Did Jackson, the Jackson family, or the Jackson estate ever do anything to help victims of child abuse, sexual or otherwise? EDIT: Not really, despite public discussion of Joe's abuse.
- The penis description is compelling. I find it hard to believe Jordan Chandler would be specific about markings if he were simply inventing it. He could have claimed that he he didn't remember or that Jackson kept his underwear on.
2023.06.02 09:38 beeemkcl Outside of those who Break the Rules of Reddit or this subReddit to the point that they get Permanently Banned, ALL viewers of "Sex Education" are fully welcome to Post and comment in this subReddit.
This Post https://www.reddit.com/SexEducationNetflix/comments/13xu71f/for_all_rotis_fans_and_people_who_are_obsessed/ was Reported but I Approved it. There are new and/or returning commenters on this subReddit. It's closer to SE S4's 'release'. It's seemingly close to more news about SE S4 and closer to when the SE S4 trailer comes out. That Post and Post thread is legitimate.
I fully meant it in my Original Sticky Mod Post (https://www.reddit.com/SexEducationNetflix/comments/1003v1y/its_okay_to_love_or_hate_a_ship_its_okay_to_love/). It's okay to hate Ruby Matthews in this subReddit. It's okay to hate Otis/Ruby in this subReddit.
And it's obviously okay that millions of SE viewers would be disappointed that there wasn't more Otis/Maeve in SE S3 and that Maeve literally left the country at the end of SE S3 and seemingly will be away from Moordale for at least a few episodes in SE S4.
Except for those who break the Rules of Reddit or the Rules of this subReddit and eventually get permanently Banned because of either frequency of Rule-breaking and/or egregiousness of Rule-breaking, all Sex Education viewers are fully welcome on this subReddit.
I actually consider CharlieWaitress111 one of the bettebest members of this subReddit given the user makes Posts that get engagement and spark interesting and fruitful discussion.
And I encourage people to have some empathy for Otis/Maeve 'shippers. Imagine if Buffy/Spike happened before Buffy/Angel and Buffy/Angel merely made out 3 times after over 4 years after Buffy the Vampire Slayer BtVS 1.01 first aired. People watching Smallville wanted Clark/Lois to happen even though Lois Lane wasn't even first introduced in the show until S4. And I think Clark/Lois doesn't even happen until like S8. But at least Smallville viewers didn't have to worry about the show being cancelled before Clark/Lois finally actually happens. Imagine those watching Gossip Girl and were 'shipping Serena/Dan but like Serena/Nate, Dan/Vanessa or even BlaiDan all happen before Serena/Dan does. And then before Serena/Dan are even shown as actually boyfriend/girlfriend on-screen, Blake Lively announces she's leaving the show after the upcoming Season and you know that Serena's character will be a several-hour plane ride away from Dan for perhaps half the upcoming Season. Regarding The Vampire Diaries, Elena/Stefan first kiss by the end of TVD 1.02, Elena has a sex dream about Elena/Stefan in TVD 1.03, Katherine/Stefan have a flashback sex scene in TVD 1.06 and another in TVD 1.17(?), Elena/Stefan first have sex in TVD 1.10, and Elena/Stefan become boyfriend/girlfriend by TVD 1.02 and Elena considers they first started dating in TVD 1.01. While Elena/Stefan don't kiss in TVD S3 until TVD 3.22, Elena/Stefan is very reinforced in TVD S3 to the point that it seems impossible that Elena/Damon would happen after TVD S3. Elena/Stefan are relatively stronger than ever in TVD 4.01-4.04 and it seems as if they'll literally be together forever given Elena is now a vampire and Elena/Stefan effectively get engaged at the end of TVD 4.01. And then TVD 4.06 happens and the viewership numbers and ratings soon fall. But there are still strong Elena/Stefan 'teases' like in TVD 4.16, 4.19, etc. Katherine/Stefan happens in TVD S5. Elena/Stefan have 'teases' in TVD S5 such as TVD 5.04 and especially TVD 5.18. Both were effectively fan service. TVD 5.18 has the highest viewership numbers and ratings of TVD S5 because so many watched on DVR and obviously fast-forwarded to all the Elena/Stefan stuff. The ratings and viewership permanently tanked after TVD 5.16(?) because Katherine was killed off. Online outside of Reddit, Elena/Damon is clearly favored. But the actual viewership of TVD has Elena/Stefan as by far the most popular 'ship and Katherine/Stefan is considerably more popular than Elena/Damon. And the numbers show that.
Clark/Lois are endgame in Smallville, but the viewership numbers and ratings were highest in S1-S5.
Elena/Stefan 'shippers have an arguably perfect ending point for the show: either the end of TVD 4.01 or 4.04 including the deleted part of the training scene in which Elena happily states that she'll be with Stefan literally forever and it's clear that Elena/Stefan are having sex. Katherine/Stefan 'shippers have TVD S5 and can consider that TVD S8 all led to Stefan's decision to die with Katherine rather than be married to Caroline or wait to see Elena again and that Katherine and Stefan are in Peace together and thus are literally the only confirmed literal soulmates in the the TV version of the TVD'verse.
BlaiDan, Serena/Nate, Serena/Carter, etc. 'shippers complain to this day that those couples weren't endgame.
Buffy/Angel 'shippers can consider that BtVS 7.22 or AtS 5.22 is the end of the Buffyverse and that Buffy is still being Cookie Dough for Angel. Buffy/Spike 'shippers have that Season 8-12 exist.
And, yeah, 'shipping in SE is relatively mild compared to other intellectual properties. Including Harry Potter.
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I fully meant it in my Original Sticky Mod Post (https://www.reddit.com/SexEducationNetflix/comments/1003v1y/its_okay_to_love_or_hate_a_ship_its_okay_to_love/). It's okay to hate Ruby Matthews in this subReddit. It's okay to hate Otis/Ruby in this subReddit.
And it's obviously okay that millions of SE viewers would be disappointed that there wasn't more Otis/Maeve in SE S3 and that Maeve literally left the country at the end of SE S3 and seemingly will be away from Moordale for at least a few episodes in SE S4.
Except for those who break the Rules of Reddit or the Rules of this subReddit and eventually get permanently Banned because of either frequency of Rule-breaking and/or egregiousness of Rule-breaking, all Sex Education viewers are fully welcome on this subReddit.
I actually consider CharlieWaitress111 one of the bettebest members of this subReddit given the user makes Posts that get engagement and spark interesting and fruitful discussion.
And I encourage people to have some empathy for Otis/Maeve 'shippers. Imagine if Buffy/Spike happened before Buffy/Angel and Buffy/Angel merely made out 3 times after over 4 years after Buffy the Vampire Slayer BtVS 1.01 first aired. People watching Smallville wanted Clark/Lois to happen even though Lois Lane wasn't even first introduced in the show until S4. And I think Clark/Lois doesn't even happen until like S8. But at least Smallville viewers didn't have to worry about the show being cancelled before Clark/Lois finally actually happens. Imagine those watching Gossip Girl and were 'shipping Serena/Dan but like Serena/Nate, Dan/Vanessa or even BlaiDan all happen before Serena/Dan does. And then before Serena/Dan are even shown as actually boyfriend/girlfriend on-screen, Blake Lively announces she's leaving the show after the upcoming Season and you know that Serena's character will be a several-hour plane ride away from Dan for perhaps half the upcoming Season. Regarding The Vampire Diaries, Elena/Stefan first kiss by the end of TVD 1.02, Elena has a sex dream about Elena/Stefan in TVD 1.03, Katherine/Stefan have a flashback sex scene in TVD 1.06 and another in TVD 1.17(?), Elena/Stefan first have sex in TVD 1.10, and Elena/Stefan become boyfriend/girlfriend by TVD 1.02 and Elena considers they first started dating in TVD 1.01. While Elena/Stefan don't kiss in TVD S3 until TVD 3.22, Elena/Stefan is very reinforced in TVD S3 to the point that it seems impossible that Elena/Damon would happen after TVD S3. Elena/Stefan are relatively stronger than ever in TVD 4.01-4.04 and it seems as if they'll literally be together forever given Elena is now a vampire and Elena/Stefan effectively get engaged at the end of TVD 4.01. And then TVD 4.06 happens and the viewership numbers and ratings soon fall. But there are still strong Elena/Stefan 'teases' like in TVD 4.16, 4.19, etc. Katherine/Stefan happens in TVD S5. Elena/Stefan have 'teases' in TVD S5 such as TVD 5.04 and especially TVD 5.18. Both were effectively fan service. TVD 5.18 has the highest viewership numbers and ratings of TVD S5 because so many watched on DVR and obviously fast-forwarded to all the Elena/Stefan stuff. The ratings and viewership permanently tanked after TVD 5.16(?) because Katherine was killed off. Online outside of Reddit, Elena/Damon is clearly favored. But the actual viewership of TVD has Elena/Stefan as by far the most popular 'ship and Katherine/Stefan is considerably more popular than Elena/Damon. And the numbers show that.
Clark/Lois are endgame in Smallville, but the viewership numbers and ratings were highest in S1-S5.
Elena/Stefan 'shippers have an arguably perfect ending point for the show: either the end of TVD 4.01 or 4.04 including the deleted part of the training scene in which Elena happily states that she'll be with Stefan literally forever and it's clear that Elena/Stefan are having sex. Katherine/Stefan 'shippers have TVD S5 and can consider that TVD S8 all led to Stefan's decision to die with Katherine rather than be married to Caroline or wait to see Elena again and that Katherine and Stefan are in Peace together and thus are literally the only confirmed literal soulmates in the the TV version of the TVD'verse.
BlaiDan, Serena/Nate, Serena/Carter, etc. 'shippers complain to this day that those couples weren't endgame.
Buffy/Angel 'shippers can consider that BtVS 7.22 or AtS 5.22 is the end of the Buffyverse and that Buffy is still being Cookie Dough for Angel. Buffy/Spike 'shippers have that Season 8-12 exist.
And, yeah, 'shipping in SE is relatively mild compared to other intellectual properties. Including Harry Potter.
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2023.06.01 14:56 EldoradoEnterprises Her name is Katherine Heigl
Don't forget that no body had been found and something was said to them that made them start going on a "treasure hunt" digging spree.
Here's the evidence
Film Info - Burbs - Search Alert Note Card
Kristin Smart - Katherine Heigl Comparison
Kristin Smart - Katherine Heigl Comparison 2
The Onion - Roast of Katherine Heigl For Conspiring
The first mention of this card was back in the first days of the search, when she was seen at Taco Bell and other locations in SLO.
The second is a pic of the comparison of the actress that I believe is the person's identity she absorbed after declaring herself missing. Katherine Heigl was the "abducted girl" from Under Seige 2 - Directed by the Israeli Nuclear Spy, Arnon Milchan of Regency Films.
The third photo is a collage of numerous versions of the same woman, as you can see in the photo lineups
The fourth stems from my appeals to the entertainment industry to get her doxxed for her conspiracy to create this whole affair, as she did with her parents using it to lure money from their audience as a sympathy scheme they hatched ahead of time.
Mom was on the Unsolved Mysteries show, without any emotions shown...that show is a known spookfest for whitewashing cases with narratives.
Dad was on (of all places to look for your kid) UFO Sightings, and has an iMDB page and has changed his looks quite a bit for the court appearances.....but it might just be his age showing. Other than that series of hollywood mockups, there are other less emotional appearances in court and in the news that showed their front was well practiced.
I was the person online that had the reporter removed from the case from the local newspaper, and the other stooge, the guy that "quit his day job", from the so called Podcast who was working with the detective Cole, he was told he was going to have to expose his evidence and be cross examined about his involvement.
He was moved so much by my reports that he chose to block me when I asked him to debate about the card and the comparisons....he was told to back off the case when his ass was on the line and he even took the podcast down in fear, to help conceal the information behind their associations with the police that were used to drum up suspicions that they used in LA.
They used Chris to get the Flores' talking while tapping their phones.....just to take the computers. If you were constantly in the spotlight for murdering a girl and dumping her body would you keep all thatstuff on your computer? Not one clip or photo was shown censored, but they had them supposedly?
They used sensationalized dramas created by drunk girls from partys to create the douchebag illusion in court, all while Chris was under employ of the police AND the same Smart family 'media rep' was taking his press contacts for him through his page's link.
I contacted them as well to pass around some of the dirty tricks stuff I found online that seemed to be an old plan hatched to use SLO as well as other universities for schemes like this.
The Smarts never got back to me....then it all clicked...it was a lure used to create a fake search.....I even got banned from a KristinSmart page for asking locals just to check it out, just to be sure.
There is a lot of "Hollywood" control over this case but keep working on finding more evidence with these leads and I assure you that they will be exposed.
PS - I made a report about the ciphers that were found from the case files of evidence and then was able to get a stay of execution and a retrial for Scott Peterson by the grace of the Governors office in CA. There are ciphers from that affair as well that led to his arrest.
Remember the names Uncle Rueben and Mr. Peterson are two characters in the movie The Burbs, which show the odd coincidences behind their trivial affairs that were clearly used as a script in this investigation. The names being so real at that point seeing the note card.
The endless digging behind the doggies scenting and "anonymous" tips were also fabrications by Denis Mahon, who has some ties to a federal agency we have seen manipulating cases in the past, and when my information hit, they immediately cut ties to him altogether when before they were constantly adoring him as their search leader online.
So obvious now isn't it.....remember when the media went wild saying an ex FBI agent she knows said he warned her to be expecting something and she should take a vacation?
The press then being told that it never happened, but the media was alive with it all? Obvious messages from the media cabal that someone was onto her lies and to lay low.
You could tell they were about to be caught red handed.
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Here's the evidence
Film Info - Burbs - Search Alert Note Card
Kristin Smart - Katherine Heigl Comparison
Kristin Smart - Katherine Heigl Comparison 2
The Onion - Roast of Katherine Heigl For Conspiring
The first mention of this card was back in the first days of the search, when she was seen at Taco Bell and other locations in SLO.
The second is a pic of the comparison of the actress that I believe is the person's identity she absorbed after declaring herself missing. Katherine Heigl was the "abducted girl" from Under Seige 2 - Directed by the Israeli Nuclear Spy, Arnon Milchan of Regency Films.
The third photo is a collage of numerous versions of the same woman, as you can see in the photo lineups
The fourth stems from my appeals to the entertainment industry to get her doxxed for her conspiracy to create this whole affair, as she did with her parents using it to lure money from their audience as a sympathy scheme they hatched ahead of time.
Mom was on the Unsolved Mysteries show, without any emotions shown...that show is a known spookfest for whitewashing cases with narratives.
Dad was on (of all places to look for your kid) UFO Sightings, and has an iMDB page and has changed his looks quite a bit for the court appearances.....but it might just be his age showing. Other than that series of hollywood mockups, there are other less emotional appearances in court and in the news that showed their front was well practiced.
I was the person online that had the reporter removed from the case from the local newspaper, and the other stooge, the guy that "quit his day job", from the so called Podcast who was working with the detective Cole, he was told he was going to have to expose his evidence and be cross examined about his involvement.
He was moved so much by my reports that he chose to block me when I asked him to debate about the card and the comparisons....he was told to back off the case when his ass was on the line and he even took the podcast down in fear, to help conceal the information behind their associations with the police that were used to drum up suspicions that they used in LA.
They used Chris to get the Flores' talking while tapping their phones.....just to take the computers. If you were constantly in the spotlight for murdering a girl and dumping her body would you keep all thatstuff on your computer? Not one clip or photo was shown censored, but they had them supposedly?
They used sensationalized dramas created by drunk girls from partys to create the douchebag illusion in court, all while Chris was under employ of the police AND the same Smart family 'media rep' was taking his press contacts for him through his page's link.
I contacted them as well to pass around some of the dirty tricks stuff I found online that seemed to be an old plan hatched to use SLO as well as other universities for schemes like this.
The Smarts never got back to me....then it all clicked...it was a lure used to create a fake search.....I even got banned from a KristinSmart page for asking locals just to check it out, just to be sure.
There is a lot of "Hollywood" control over this case but keep working on finding more evidence with these leads and I assure you that they will be exposed.
PS - I made a report about the ciphers that were found from the case files of evidence and then was able to get a stay of execution and a retrial for Scott Peterson by the grace of the Governors office in CA. There are ciphers from that affair as well that led to his arrest.
Remember the names Uncle Rueben and Mr. Peterson are two characters in the movie The Burbs, which show the odd coincidences behind their trivial affairs that were clearly used as a script in this investigation. The names being so real at that point seeing the note card.
The endless digging behind the doggies scenting and "anonymous" tips were also fabrications by Denis Mahon, who has some ties to a federal agency we have seen manipulating cases in the past, and when my information hit, they immediately cut ties to him altogether when before they were constantly adoring him as their search leader online.
So obvious now isn't it.....remember when the media went wild saying an ex FBI agent she knows said he warned her to be expecting something and she should take a vacation?
The press then being told that it never happened, but the media was alive with it all? Obvious messages from the media cabal that someone was onto her lies and to lay low.
You could tell they were about to be caught red handed.
2023.06.01 13:03 FelicitySmoak_ On This Day In Michael Jackson HIStory - June 1st
 | Disclaimer: Some of these events have unknown June dates. They are identified with a '*' submitted by FelicitySmoak_ to MichaelJackson [link] [comments] 1970 - The Jackson 5 are on the cover of Soul Magazine. https://preview.redd.it/t3x3aj39x83b1.jpg?width=185&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c46b5a7124e0f82c1e0786f492c7918d5864410 1974 - Michael is on the cover of Popswop magazine https://preview.redd.it/ixqlvxcax83b1.jpg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3054a154699e02b390de3eedfc31d7d73c89c49b 1974 - Jackson 5 are on the cover of Right On! magazine https://preview.redd.it/op0dv5jbx83b1.jpg?width=278&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=618785113888c6ad635cc22e882b2d500b5099f7 1977\* - The Jackson go back to Sigma Sound Studios in Philidalphia to record their new album, Goin' Places, with Gamble & Huff 1978\* - The Jacksons record the Destiny album in Los Angeles after recording song demos at their Hayvenhurst home studio 1979 - The Jackson perform at Milwaukee County Stadium (closed- 2000) in Milwaukee, Wisconsin on their Destiny tour 1979 - (June 1 -3) Michael, Quincy Jones & Bruce Swedien complete the recording & mixing of the Off The Wall album Westlake Studios in Los Angeles. 1979\* - The Jacksons start recording the Triumph Album. 1982\* - Michael would come across a studio demo produced by John Barnes and request a meeting. In an interview with The MJCast podcast, John recalled their first meeting: “Michael said I heard you can make your own sounds and play them. How many sounds can you make? And, I responded, ‘How much time do you have?’”The meeting lasted a few hours and was the beginning of a friendship and musical partnership with Barnes being hired as a core member of Michael Jackson’s team. Their partnership would continue until Michael's passing in 2009 1983\* - Michael is on the cover of Creem magazine. https://preview.redd.it/9yg9z5gdx83b1.jpg?width=194&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9377877d089aa3cba8d5ac46d8beb4f008148cc6 1984\* - Michael meets with other supporters of Camp Good Times, a non-profit organization founded by parents of children with cancer, in Malibu such as OJ Simpson, Dustin Hoffman, David Soul, Neil Diamond & Richard Chamberlain. https://preview.redd.it/itq82l4fx83b1.jpg?width=604&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3d842daebae5f0354bcf3978f99c7f762c5e853 The first Camp Goodtimes event would be held in Vashon Island at Camp Sealth in August of 1984. Ninety-three children, cancer patients and siblings attended and twenty-five American Cancer Society volunteers, who staffed the camp along with the summer staff at Camp Sealth. https://preview.redd.it/chpslqigx83b1.jpg?width=492&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4d88e4c2eeff4ba35272af34861bc4c8107fcf4 1985\* - Michael starts rehearsing for an upcoming 3D science fiction musical short film named Captain EO to be shown exclusively at Disneyland and Disney World. Francis Ford Coppola will direct and George Lucas will produce the film 1986\*- Michael & Corey Feldman go to Disneyland . Michael is seen for the 1st time wearing a surgical mask in public In Moonwalk, he says he was initially given a mask by a dentist to keep germs out after having his wisdom teeth pulled 1987\* - Michael shoots the “The Way You Make Me Feel” short film at Skid Row, Los Angeles. It was directed by Joe Pytka and choreographed by Vincent Paterson & Michael. It featured Tatiana Thumbtzen & Latoya Jackson 1988\- Michael is on the cover of *Ebony magazine. https://preview.redd.it/7vf9a8sjx83b1.jpg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dba838d746849473244cd6bd31bffc5cfc753264 1988\* - Michael Jackson : The Legend Continues is released on home video. 1988 - Michael sets another record as the first artist ever to have three albums with US sales of more than six million copies each as Bad & Off The Wall were both certified 6x platinum by the RIAA 1989\- Michael goes back to Westlake studio with Matt Forger and Bill Bottrell. He meets Brad Buxer who will work with him until 2008. Together they work on new songs for a compilation named *DECADE 1979-1989 Quincy Jones is not part of this project. "Black Or White" and "Heal The World" are among the first songs worked on. 1991 - David Ruffin, a member of The Temptations, dies of a drug overdose. https://preview.redd.it/b6dbc1bnx83b1.jpg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8799b1e81dcbea674704632f8bd1c24f7cc4d278 It was found that Ruffin was peniniless and Jackson contacted Swanson Funeral Home in Detroit to make arrangements to cover a large portion of the June 10th funeral costs. He also sends a heart-shaped arrangement of carnations to the New Bethel Baptist Church in Detroit with the note, "With Love, from Michael Jackson". https://preview.redd.it/1or0alhox83b1.jpg?width=115&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65f15c4d371af0aabbd35a225c940290c235885e Jackson was a big admirer of The Temptations. He would not attend the funeral ceremony to not divert attention from it (it was however reported that he did attend but in disguise) 1991\* - The Sun publishes leaked pictures from a photo session of Michael by Herb Ritts. It had been rumored that multiple photographers were battling in out to shoot Michael's new video & album cover. Steve Meisel, Bruce Weber and Herb Ritts had been in the running to give Michael a new "sexier" look https://preview.redd.it/sydk4qnqx83b1.jpg?width=325&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58e2d9a6ed59df1932b9b70e19e66dc7f3f36d00 https://preview.redd.it/5xn8vbfrx83b1.jpg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bad059a6d8e90629914b37c6cd70f6d38e157aaa 1991\* - Michael enlists the help of producers L.A Reid & Babyface for his new album, which deeply upsets Jermaine who is also working with them. Jermaine is quoted in the tabloids as saying: "I could have been Michael. It's all a matter of timing, a matter of luck"1991\* - Michael is on the cover of British magazine The Wire https://preview.redd.it/3k7xqt2ux83b1.jpg?width=194&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f3d9f9084baf9b1ca245309da419cc040bac8ad 1992\*- Michael rehearses for his new tour & shoot the video for “Who Is It” 1993 - Michael is on the cover of LIFE magazine with an exclusive cover story of Neverland. https://preview.redd.it/747a3hjwx83b1.jpg?width=204&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55825974f9d9075637d12bd131ce06c1751a6b86 1994\* - This summer Heal The World Foundation, in partnership with Los Angeles Unified School District, "I Have A Dream Foundation", "Best Buddies", "Overcoming Obstacles" & "California One To One", provide 2000 children with tickets to see Janet Jackson, the L.A. Laker Jam and The Beach Boys in concert 1995\* - Michael is on the June/July cover of VIBE magazine with exclusive pictures taken at Neverland with Quincy Jones & his daughter Kidada https://preview.redd.it/sp0jbe4zx83b1.jpg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db0f8f469beed147be08d8d66a28d25bc2823bee 1995 - (5/30-6/2) Michael shoots the “Childhood” short film directed by Nicholas Brandt in Los Angeles . 1995\* - Issue #2 of History Magazine reveals that Travis Thomas, a 5-year old boy who suffers from cystic fibrosis, wished to meet Michael. https://preview.redd.it/tom82ak2y83b1.jpg?width=591&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ecb82da9d4ebc7064d8fb8a430e59b016f5153f “One evening, we were watching TV and Travis hadn’t eaten for a couple of days. He was on TV”, the boy's mother recalls, “and we came across the American Music Awards and Michael Jackson… Travis sat up and wanted to eat… He said, ‘I love Michael Jackson, Mama!” His wish comes true in June through Jackson and the Make A Wish Foundation.Travis and his family, along with 20 other seriously ill children, spent a weekend at Neverland Ranch and were allowed to roam around the compound’s private amusement park. Travis’ mother: “The love this man has on his face when he is with these special children is unbelievable. He is one of the kindest and most gentle men I have ever met" https://preview.redd.it/jcjnl8n4y83b1.jpg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb944423e2d118bc9fcb05edf2164a4fcc756f58 1999 - Michael cancels his participation in the Pavarotti & Friends Charity Concert in Modena, scheduled for tonight. Jonathan Morrish of Sony Music issues a statement informing the media, that Michael will not be performing due to the illness of his son, Prince: "Prince suffered a seizure early Saturday due to a high temperature. This is the third seizure over the last year"He added that the concert meant so much to Michael but,"he is an artist like the others, but also a parent" and that he waited until the last moment to cancel because he was still hopeful about making it. Michael is reportedly constantly at Prince's bedside 2000* - Concert promoter,Marcel Avram, sues Michael for breach of contract for the Millenium Concerts and asks for $21 million https://preview.redd.it/pxkl6nvfqa3b1.jpg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c35566acdde1d551f64a944209e5d0fd69e49f4 2001\* - Michael hires Marc Schaffel and they create a new company,Neverland Valley Entertainment, with a common bank account. 2004\* - Randy Jackson fires Bob Jones, vice president of MJJ Productions since 1987, after discovering that he is writing a tell all book on Michael. He also stops paying Marc Schaffel. 2005 - Trial Day 64 Michael goes to court with Katherine, Joe & Randy https://preview.redd.it/k8qhr9o6y83b1.jpg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec65ff6e82adc0dcfa7f54e5c62df7c71b2f404a Judge Melville gives the Jury the rules of Jury Deliberations Michael Jackson sat quietly in court as the 12 jurors were given their instructions ahead of closing arguments from both sides. "You've heard all of the evidence and you will hear the arguments of attorneys," Judge Rodney Melville told the jury. He told them to make their decision without "pity for or prejudice toward" the defendant. The eight women & four men who will decide his fate will hear closing arguments today and could begin their deliberations as early as Friday (it is currently Wednesday). Jurors are expected to hammer out their decision behind closed doors for about six hours a day until they reach their verdict or announce a deadlock. The charges against Jackson consist of four counts of molestation, four counts of giving the boy alcohol in order to abuse him, one count of conspiracy and one of attempted molestation. Jurors were told they could consider the four alcohol counts as lesser charges of "furnishing alcohol to a minor." This would be considered a misdemeanor and means that the jury would not have to relate the alcohol to any intended molestation. Judge Melville told jurors not to consider the four videos played in the trial for the truth of any remarks made in them, except for certain statements that prosecutors claim are admissions from Jackson. These statements will be outlined in a document to be provided by prosecutors. The Judge also instructed the jury on how to consider the past allegations against Jackson. He said that if they determine he does have such a history, "you may but are not required to infer that the defendant had a predisposition" to commit the crimes alleged in this case. But he added that is not sufficient in itself to prove he committed the crimes charged He also told them not to infer anything from the fact Jackson himself had decided not to testify. Thomas Mesereau will deliver closing arguments for the defense while Deputy District Attorney Ron Zonen is expected to deliver the prosecutions closing statements. Court Transcript https://preview.redd.it/fzzm4698y83b1.jpg?width=598&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7acd40d9e8f3567da7b336aac616c8b8b923378 2005\* - Michael allows visits from fans inside his home while awaiting the verdict. They're impressed by his generosity given the circumstances. 2007 - A glittery jacket once worn onstage by Michael, his MTV Music Award for "We Are The World", as well as gold discs for his album Off the Wall and the Jackson 5 single "I Want You Back", all sell at an auction in the Hard Rock Café in Las Vegas, Nevada. The total raised from the sale of Michael related artifacts at the auction is reported as $1-$2million 2007\* - Michael, Grace and the kids leave their Las Vegas house and fly to Middleburg, Virginia. They check into the Goodstone Inn, a 640-acre estate of open pastures, for a summer vacation. They are welcomed by Raymone Bain. 2007\* - Michael “Brother Michael” Amir Williams is hired as Michael’s new assistant. 2008\* - Michael and producer Neff-U start working on songs at 'Thriller Villa', his 2710 Palomino Lane home, in Las Vegas. They work on a new version of “A Place With No Name”. 2008\* - Late in the month, Michael's duet with Akon, "Hold My Hand" is leaked online. Michael is devastated Longtime recording engineer, Michael Prince, who was working with Jackson at the time “Hold My Hand” leaked, recalls: “He was truly upset when the song he did with Akon leaked. He would just get this sad look on his face like, how could this happen? Because 20 years ago this would not have happened. And somehow everybody in the world has a copy of it. And that really upset him because he liked that song a lot.”Akon gave a detailed account of the events surrounding the leak during an appearance on Tavis Smiley’s PBS television show in January 2009: “Me and Mike did this incredible record called Hold My Hand and the record is amazing. Phenomenal. And the concept was that this would be Mike’s first release off of his new album, and then I would stripe it on my album – on my following release. That way we could have the outlets open for everyone to be able to receive the record. You know, Mike came up with this brilliant marketing launch for the record. You know, he’s the best at launching a record.”Akon continues: “He’d have the whole world paying attention in two minutes… And before we could get to that point, the record got leaked over the internet. And we got over 15 million downloads on the song for free. So we couldn’t [release it]. You can’t at that point. Everybody already has the record. But in a way, you gotta look at it like… that’s just a gift to the fans.”2008\* - (Late June) Michael hires Dr Thome Thome as his new manager and president of MJJ Productions. As a result of a financial reorganiation of the Neverland Valley Ranch, all of Michael’s personal belongings have to be removed from the property. Dr Tohme contacts Darren Julien of Julien’s Auction House 2009 - The This Is It team leaves Center Staging for a bigger place : The Forum in Inglewood, California. 2009 - (June 1-11) At Culver Studios in Culver City, Michael shoots “The Dome” Project which consists of seven works:
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2023.05.31 16:15 igorcarbex16 Bully Soundtrack References & Similarities in Details...
https://preview.redd.it/ahl29u0mu73b1.jpg?width=453&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=cc1b571612182aff5e4cef882d9095a7be6f2375
Hello Bully it's me again, The Bully soundtrack composed by the genius Shawn Lee is pretty rad, so as a music enthusiastic, i want to share this post for people really obsessed with the Bully songs like me, tried to include every song in the game like as puzzle pieces getting together with the greatest amount, most accurate and similar as possible in one sitting, with some help around the internet, personal discoveries and songs already mentioned for yourselves so thank you nonetheless, and sorry for the repetition. Unfortunately some will still be missing so "a little help"/hits for these unreferenced sounds are very welcome.
Some songs are pretty obvious but others looks well hidden, but that's the fun of it, not every song is a sample, they just sound alike or has interpolations.
I know it would be boring to reading all of this so also dedicated this YouTube playlist in details for, so that you can check thoroughly for a more accurate comparison: 😎👍 - Have Fun! https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtZ1VivcLOsiTtYHUrK-xw8OHZZAeOzRf
★ Main Storyline
·Welcome to Bullworth (Menu theme): Suspiria Theme - Goblin
·This Is Your School: The Duck - Shawn Lee
·The Setup/Bait/The Gym is Burning: Organ Donor - DJ Shadow
·Slingshot/Revenge on Mr. Burton "Part 3" (Fun): My Sweet Lord - George Harrionson the ex-Beatles & Billy Preston
·Save Algie: Love My Way - Psychedelic Furs
·Defend Bucky/The Eggs/Weed KilleStronghold Assault (Action): Shake, Shake, Shake - KC & The Sunshine Band, A Little Less Conversation - Elvis Presley, Hocus Pocus - Focus
·That B****/The Diary/Jealous Johnny/Paparazzi: This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody) - Talking Heads
·The Candidate/Cook's Date: Oh Yeah - Yello
·Halloween/The Big Prank: The Chase - Shawn Lee, Burning Bridges - The Republic From The Getaway Game - Shawn Lee
·Help Gary: Cannonball - Breeders (it also reminds me the "X-Files Theme - Mark Snow" but this is overthinking)
·Character Sheets: Agent Woodrow - The Woodies
·Hattrick vs. Galloway: Cat Blues - Seatbelts (Drum Patterns)
·Movie Tickets (Sneaking On A Date): All Mine, Glory Box - both by Portished
·Carnival Date (Romance): Kiss The Sky - Shawn Lee's Ping Pong Orchestra (also features in "Tales from the Bordelands Episode 2")
·Prep Challenge/Boxing Challenge: Drums on Phasing - Joe Ufer (Sample)
·Race the Vale/Lola's Race: Casio VL-1 Tone (Sampler) *a lot of songs use this instrument for samples, for Bully this is predominant in bike races, it also reminds the iconic song "Funkytown - Lipps inc."
·Beach Rumble: Tenebre 12 mix - Claudio Simonetti
·Tad's House: Billie Jean (Bass Only) - Michael Jackson
·Tagging/Making a Mark (Wildstyle): Chic - Good Times
·Wrong Part of Town/Busting In, Part I: Prog Punk, Psyche Drums (*After The Release!) - Shawn Lee's Ping Pong Orchestra
·The Tenements/Norton Boss Fight: Human Fly - Cramps, I Wanna Be Your Dog - Iggy Pop & the Stooges
·The Rumble/Defender of the Castle (Epic Confrontation): Matador - X Mal Deutschland (as the "wildstyle" music many songs are similar to this, i listed the most accurate or the most fun imo, at least)
·Nerd Challenge/Consumo Arcade (Menu): Sakura, Sakura - Traditional Japanese Folk Song
·Nerd Challenge/Consumo (Main): Four Thousand Years of Chinese History - SNK Sound Team from Fatal Fury: King of Fighters Game
·Glass House/Smash It Up (Destruction/Vandalism): Rapture - Blondie, The Breaks - Kurtis Blow
·Nice Outfit: Odetta - Hit or Miss (Drum Patterns), Dig Your Own Hole - Chemical Brothers (Drum Patterns)
·The Big Game (Nerds "Agent")/Revenge on Mr. Burton "Part 2": Big Bad Wolf - Shawn Lee
·Rats in the Library: You Rock My World - Michael Jackson, Spies In The Wires - Cabaret Voltaire
·Preppies Vandalized (Punishment): D12 40 Oz. - Mr. Stan
·Busting In, Part II/Paper Route: Identity - X-Ray Spec, Mongoloid - Devo
·Showdown at the Plant (Overture): "Saracens Theme" - The Warriors Game
·Complete Mayhem (Street Fight): Criminal - Fiona Apple (also resembles "All Caps - Madvillain-Madvillainy or MF Doom" and "Intermezzo 2 - Mr. chop" but this was released in 2009)
·School's Out (End Credits): Walk On The Wild Side (Bass and Rhythm Pattern) - Lou Reed by Velvet Underground
\Christmas is Here, Small Offences, Discreet Deliveries, The Collector, Mailbox Armageddon and Go See The Principal doesn't feature a unique theme or has any song.*
★ Miscellaneous, Ambience & Shop themes
·Chase Prefect and Police: The Shaft intro and end themes - Isaac Hayes, Beat Dis (12 Version) - Bomb The Bass
·Chase Adults/A Little Help: Take California - Propellerheads, Secret Agent - Bjorn Lynne
·Detention/Mowing Laws - Unused track from The Warrior Game (it doesn't have an actual name, sorry)
·Bike Race 1: Casio VL-1 Tone (Sampler)
·Bike Race 2: Sonic CD Game - Wacky Workbench Zone - Bad Future
·Kart Race (Main) or "Lowrider": You Baby - The Turtles
·Kart Race (Beta): Baba Hya - Lafayette Afro Rock Band
·General Store "Yum Yum Market": Cover Girl - Gabriele Ducros
·Hair Saloon (Poor) "The Final Cut": Punky Dragster - Tele Music
·Hair Saloon (Rich) "Old Bullworth Vale": Dance Feeling - Tele Music
·Clothing Store (Poor) "Worn In Used Clothing": Disco Revisited - Tele Music
·Clothing Store (Rich) "Aquaberry Outlet" (*After The Release!): Now That Is Jazz - Charlie's Bistro Ensemble
·Janitor's Room: Lonesome Heart Swing - Dennis Caplinger
·Carnival Ambience "Billy Crane's Traveling Carnival": Golden Brown - Stranglers
·Box Club Ambience "Glass Jaw Boxing Club": Icy Nation - Tele Music
·Preppie's Hideout Beach "Lighthouse" (*After The Release!): With My Maker I Am One - Chill Coffehouse Drip
·Dragon's Wing Comic Store (*After The Release!): Daniel Loves Singing - C. Allocco
·Nerd's Hideout "Dragon's Wing Comic Store" (Under): Soaring Song - Tele Music
·Jock's Hideout "Jock's Clubhouse": Grand Theft Auto (Song) - Craig Conner
·Monkey Fling (Menu): it reresemble Super Mario World Overworld theme
·Future Street Racer (Main): The Doom - Shadow The Hedgehog 2005 Game
★ Xmas Themes
Holiday themes features various artists, this list is based on the ones made by Shawn lee itself for his album "A Very Ping Pong Christmas: Funky Treats form Santa's Bag", The original composers is on the song description.
·Balls of Snow: Carol of the Bells - Mykola Leontovych
·Miracle on Bullworth St.: Jingle Bells - James Lord Pierpont
·Rudy the Red Nosed Santa: O Come All Ye Faithful (Adeste Fideles) - John Francis Wade & Frederick Oakeley
·Nutcrackin': Deck The Halls - Thomas Oliphant, Little Dummer Boy - Katherine Kennicott Davis, Harry Simeone & Henry Onorati
·Bike Shop (Xmas) "Shiny Bikes": Let it Snow! - Gary Hoey (Dean Martin is the original composer) (Most famous by Frank Sinatra)
·Clothing Store (Poor) (Xmas) "Worn In"/Clothing Store (Rich) (Xmas) "Aquaberry": Jingle Bells (Dan The Automator) - Dean Martin, *the Aquaberry outlet uses a different tone in jazz
·Janitor's Room (Xmas)/Hair Saloon (Poor)(Xmas) "The Final Cut": Up On The House Top (Ho, Ho, Ho) - Gene Autry
·Dragon's Wing Comic Store (Xmas)/Hair Saloon (Rich)(Xmas)"Old Bullworth Vale": We Wish You a Merry Christmas - Traditional English (Britain) Folk Song
·Xmas Tree: Dance Of The Sugar-Plum Fairy - Piotr Ilitch Tchaikovski
\The General Store "Yum Yum Market" reuses a song collage of various themes as Deck the Halls, We Wish You a Merry Christmas and Jingle Bells in that order on looping.*
★ Classes
·Music classes features American Folk and American March Songs since the game takes place in USA
Class 1: Turkey In The Straw
Class 2: Masterpiece Fanfare
Class 3: She'll Be Coming 'Round the Mountain
Class 4: Liberty Bell March (also known as "Monty Python Theme")
Class 5: The Washington Post March (also sounds similar to "Willian Tell Act" by Charlie Chaplin)
·English Class: Piéces de Clavecin en concert; La Timide - Jean-Philippe Rameau
·Art Class: Come With the Night (Drum Patterns) - Sugar Stick (also resembles "Test Area - Broadcast" or "Serpent Magique - Tangerine Dream")
·Photography Class/BMX Park (*After The Release!): Automatic - Shawn Lee & AM (for observation, the Bike Park and Photography theme are slightly different, not the same)
·Biology: Dara Factor One - Weather Report Music, Heist in Helsinki (*After The Release!) - Shawn Lee's Ping Pong Orchestra
\Geography class uses a medley of characteristic instruments and sounds of world nations*
★ Cliques & Boss fights
·Vendetta Non-Clique: Ode To Billie Joe - Lou Donaldson
·Vendetta Bullies: Skin Therapy - Mr. Dibbs (also features in Tony Hawk's Underground 2003 Game), And on the Sixth Day - Pat Williams
·Vendetta Nerds/Stronghold Assault (Nerd Boss Fight): Casio VL-1 Tone (Sampler), Da Da Da - Trio (not only the song but the nerds cliques itself looks heavy inspired by the movie Revenge of the Nerds, some themes would also fit for Nerds in particular "Burning Down The House by Talking Heads")
·Vendetta Preppies: Billie Jean - Michael Jackson, Whip it - Devo
·Vendetta Greasers: Play For Today - The Cure, Private Idaho - B-52's, Disorder - Joy Division
·Vendetta Jocks: Amen, Brother - The Winstons, Drums Away - The Simon Song (Drums Intro), The Assembly Line - Commodores (this one use one of the most famous samples in music the "Amen Break" by Winstons as initially mentioned)
·Vendetta Dropouts/Townie Challenge: Tédio - Biquíni Cavadão, I Love Rock 'N Roll - The Arrows (Original Composers) *the guitar riff and bass pattern is extremely similar to "Pretty Fly by Offspring" but the song "Tédio" is alot older and still more accurate to the townies theme
·Russell in the Hole: Firestarter (Drum Patterns) - Prodigy, Devotion (Voice of Paradise) - Ten City
·Dishonorable Fight: Eye of the Tiger, Burning Heart - both by Survivor
·Fighting Johnny Vincent: Boogie Woodie - The Beach Boys, Caldonia Boogie - Louis Jordan (also covered by James Brown) *this song line is also referred as "The Walking Bass" featured in many Classic Rock songs
·The Big Game (Jock Boss Fight): Just Like Heaven, A Forest - The Cure, Harmonia - Dino
·Showdown at the Plant: Headhunter - Front 242, Are You Red..Y - The Clash
·Final Showdown: Underwater March - Klaus Badelt, 2001 NBA Ultimate Player (Film Score) *God of War (2018) Game also has a similar tone in "Spartan Rage" overture by Bear McCreary
★... Uncertain? ...Suggestions
·Bully Main Theme (Running Theme): Maniac - Michael Sembello, the synthesizer effect looks an interpolation of the xylophone effect used in the game.
·Overworld (Walking Theme) - The Phantom of the Opera Motion Picture Overture (this also resambles "echoes" by pink floyd but that peculiar melody is more predominant in this theme), Let's Ge Started (Bass Only) - Black Eyed Peas, it looks heavily inspired by Dario Argento movies (as the overall soundtrack).
·Here's to you Ms. Philips/Last Minute Shopping/Cook's Crush/Discretion Assured/Finding Johnny Vincent/Revenge on Mr. Burton "Part 1" (The Search): Sounds similar to "Tenant - Siouxsie And The Banshees", people often confuse this theme to "Cheating Time" but the track is named "Here's to you Ms. Philips" as does the mission, it also resembles a Giorgio Gaslini piece an italian jazz pianist or the american compositor Henry Mancini the creator of Pink Panther iconic theme.
·Panty Raid/Galloway Away/Cheating Time (Stealth): Love Theme From "The Godfather" or "Speak Softly, Love" or just The Godfather Theme from Nino Rota a renowned italian composer, written by Larry Kusik, also resembles the song "Hey by Pixies".
·Comic Klepto: Where’d You Go - Fort Minor e Jonah Matranga (interpolation), also resembles Gramatik, Transplants, Flobots or X-Ecutiornes style of song.
·Funhouse Fun/ Funhouse (Ambience): Carnival of the Animals; Introduction and Royal March of the Lion ("Marche Royale du Lions") - Camille Saint-Saëns (interpolation)
·Funhouse Graveyard "Carnival Funhouse Graveyard" (Unused/Beta): Lux Aeterna - Clint Mansell & Kronos Quartet; Requiem For A Killer Movie Score
·Shop Class "Auto Repair Shop": Sounds similar to Star Guitar - Chemical Brothers, Cities in the Dust - Siouxie And The Banshees
·Math Class (Beta): Sounds similar to Nightmare on Elm Street Theme
·Gym Class/Lockpicking/Jocks Challenge: Sounds similar to "Resucitó" an old catholic song
·Bike Shop "Shiny Bikes": Sounds similar to Billy Club - Junkie XL, Horndog - Overseer
·Greaser's Hideout/Greaser's Challenge "Blue Balls Pool House" "Tattoo Parlor" & "The Happy Mullet": Sounds similar to In-Cut Overdrive - Tomonori Sawada; Sega Rally 2006 Game
·Townies/Dropouts Hideout "Dropout Hangout": Sounds similar to Babel - Covenant
★ Still Missing... Unknown?
·Chemistry Class: although i can't find a matching song it doesn't sound like music per se
·Math Class (Main): definitely a funky/soul tune, unfortunately i couldn't find a corresponding song for it
·Nut Shots: resembles Gradius songs a game by Konami or AiAce Combat a Namco Game
I REALLY LOVE BUNNIES, THEY'RE SO NICE!
I Hope you like it 😎👍
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Hello Bully it's me again, The Bully soundtrack composed by the genius Shawn Lee is pretty rad, so as a music enthusiastic, i want to share this post for people really obsessed with the Bully songs like me, tried to include every song in the game like as puzzle pieces getting together with the greatest amount, most accurate and similar as possible in one sitting, with some help around the internet, personal discoveries and songs already mentioned for yourselves so thank you nonetheless, and sorry for the repetition. Unfortunately some will still be missing so "a little help"/hits for these unreferenced sounds are very welcome.
Some songs are pretty obvious but others looks well hidden, but that's the fun of it, not every song is a sample, they just sound alike or has interpolations.
I know it would be boring to reading all of this so also dedicated this YouTube playlist in details for, so that you can check thoroughly for a more accurate comparison: 😎👍 - Have Fun! https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtZ1VivcLOsiTtYHUrK-xw8OHZZAeOzRf
★ Main Storyline
·Welcome to Bullworth (Menu theme): Suspiria Theme - Goblin
·This Is Your School: The Duck - Shawn Lee
·The Setup/Bait/The Gym is Burning: Organ Donor - DJ Shadow
·Slingshot/Revenge on Mr. Burton "Part 3" (Fun): My Sweet Lord - George Harrionson the ex-Beatles & Billy Preston
·Save Algie: Love My Way - Psychedelic Furs
·Defend Bucky/The Eggs/Weed KilleStronghold Assault (Action): Shake, Shake, Shake - KC & The Sunshine Band, A Little Less Conversation - Elvis Presley, Hocus Pocus - Focus
·That B****/The Diary/Jealous Johnny/Paparazzi: This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody) - Talking Heads
·The Candidate/Cook's Date: Oh Yeah - Yello
·Halloween/The Big Prank: The Chase - Shawn Lee, Burning Bridges - The Republic From The Getaway Game - Shawn Lee
·Help Gary: Cannonball - Breeders (it also reminds me the "X-Files Theme - Mark Snow" but this is overthinking)
·Character Sheets: Agent Woodrow - The Woodies
·Hattrick vs. Galloway: Cat Blues - Seatbelts (Drum Patterns)
·Movie Tickets (Sneaking On A Date): All Mine, Glory Box - both by Portished
·Carnival Date (Romance): Kiss The Sky - Shawn Lee's Ping Pong Orchestra (also features in "Tales from the Bordelands Episode 2")
·Prep Challenge/Boxing Challenge: Drums on Phasing - Joe Ufer (Sample)
·Race the Vale/Lola's Race: Casio VL-1 Tone (Sampler) *a lot of songs use this instrument for samples, for Bully this is predominant in bike races, it also reminds the iconic song "Funkytown - Lipps inc."
·Beach Rumble: Tenebre 12 mix - Claudio Simonetti
·Tad's House: Billie Jean (Bass Only) - Michael Jackson
·Tagging/Making a Mark (Wildstyle): Chic - Good Times
·Wrong Part of Town/Busting In, Part I: Prog Punk, Psyche Drums (*After The Release!) - Shawn Lee's Ping Pong Orchestra
·The Tenements/Norton Boss Fight: Human Fly - Cramps, I Wanna Be Your Dog - Iggy Pop & the Stooges
·The Rumble/Defender of the Castle (Epic Confrontation): Matador - X Mal Deutschland (as the "wildstyle" music many songs are similar to this, i listed the most accurate or the most fun imo, at least)
·Nerd Challenge/Consumo Arcade (Menu): Sakura, Sakura - Traditional Japanese Folk Song
·Nerd Challenge/Consumo (Main): Four Thousand Years of Chinese History - SNK Sound Team from Fatal Fury: King of Fighters Game
·Glass House/Smash It Up (Destruction/Vandalism): Rapture - Blondie, The Breaks - Kurtis Blow
·Nice Outfit: Odetta - Hit or Miss (Drum Patterns), Dig Your Own Hole - Chemical Brothers (Drum Patterns)
·The Big Game (Nerds "Agent")/Revenge on Mr. Burton "Part 2": Big Bad Wolf - Shawn Lee
·Rats in the Library: You Rock My World - Michael Jackson, Spies In The Wires - Cabaret Voltaire
·Preppies Vandalized (Punishment): D12 40 Oz. - Mr. Stan
·Busting In, Part II/Paper Route: Identity - X-Ray Spec, Mongoloid - Devo
·Showdown at the Plant (Overture): "Saracens Theme" - The Warriors Game
·Complete Mayhem (Street Fight): Criminal - Fiona Apple (also resembles "All Caps - Madvillain-Madvillainy or MF Doom" and "Intermezzo 2 - Mr. chop" but this was released in 2009)
·School's Out (End Credits): Walk On The Wild Side (Bass and Rhythm Pattern) - Lou Reed by Velvet Underground
\Christmas is Here, Small Offences, Discreet Deliveries, The Collector, Mailbox Armageddon and Go See The Principal doesn't feature a unique theme or has any song.*
★ Miscellaneous, Ambience & Shop themes
·Chase Prefect and Police: The Shaft intro and end themes - Isaac Hayes, Beat Dis (12 Version) - Bomb The Bass
·Chase Adults/A Little Help: Take California - Propellerheads, Secret Agent - Bjorn Lynne
·Detention/Mowing Laws - Unused track from The Warrior Game (it doesn't have an actual name, sorry)
·Bike Race 1: Casio VL-1 Tone (Sampler)
·Bike Race 2: Sonic CD Game - Wacky Workbench Zone - Bad Future
·Kart Race (Main) or "Lowrider": You Baby - The Turtles
·Kart Race (Beta): Baba Hya - Lafayette Afro Rock Band
·General Store "Yum Yum Market": Cover Girl - Gabriele Ducros
·Hair Saloon (Poor) "The Final Cut": Punky Dragster - Tele Music
·Hair Saloon (Rich) "Old Bullworth Vale": Dance Feeling - Tele Music
·Clothing Store (Poor) "Worn In Used Clothing": Disco Revisited - Tele Music
·Clothing Store (Rich) "Aquaberry Outlet" (*After The Release!): Now That Is Jazz - Charlie's Bistro Ensemble
·Janitor's Room: Lonesome Heart Swing - Dennis Caplinger
·Carnival Ambience "Billy Crane's Traveling Carnival": Golden Brown - Stranglers
·Box Club Ambience "Glass Jaw Boxing Club": Icy Nation - Tele Music
·Preppie's Hideout Beach "Lighthouse" (*After The Release!): With My Maker I Am One - Chill Coffehouse Drip
·Dragon's Wing Comic Store (*After The Release!): Daniel Loves Singing - C. Allocco
·Nerd's Hideout "Dragon's Wing Comic Store" (Under): Soaring Song - Tele Music
·Jock's Hideout "Jock's Clubhouse": Grand Theft Auto (Song) - Craig Conner
·Monkey Fling (Menu): it reresemble Super Mario World Overworld theme
·Future Street Racer (Main): The Doom - Shadow The Hedgehog 2005 Game
★ Xmas Themes
Holiday themes features various artists, this list is based on the ones made by Shawn lee itself for his album "A Very Ping Pong Christmas: Funky Treats form Santa's Bag", The original composers is on the song description.
·Balls of Snow: Carol of the Bells - Mykola Leontovych
·Miracle on Bullworth St.: Jingle Bells - James Lord Pierpont
·Rudy the Red Nosed Santa: O Come All Ye Faithful (Adeste Fideles) - John Francis Wade & Frederick Oakeley
·Nutcrackin': Deck The Halls - Thomas Oliphant, Little Dummer Boy - Katherine Kennicott Davis, Harry Simeone & Henry Onorati
·Bike Shop (Xmas) "Shiny Bikes": Let it Snow! - Gary Hoey (Dean Martin is the original composer) (Most famous by Frank Sinatra)
·Clothing Store (Poor) (Xmas) "Worn In"/Clothing Store (Rich) (Xmas) "Aquaberry": Jingle Bells (Dan The Automator) - Dean Martin, *the Aquaberry outlet uses a different tone in jazz
·Janitor's Room (Xmas)/Hair Saloon (Poor)(Xmas) "The Final Cut": Up On The House Top (Ho, Ho, Ho) - Gene Autry
·Dragon's Wing Comic Store (Xmas)/Hair Saloon (Rich)(Xmas)"Old Bullworth Vale": We Wish You a Merry Christmas - Traditional English (Britain) Folk Song
·Xmas Tree: Dance Of The Sugar-Plum Fairy - Piotr Ilitch Tchaikovski
\The General Store "Yum Yum Market" reuses a song collage of various themes as Deck the Halls, We Wish You a Merry Christmas and Jingle Bells in that order on looping.*
★ Classes
·Music classes features American Folk and American March Songs since the game takes place in USA
Class 1: Turkey In The Straw
Class 2: Masterpiece Fanfare
Class 3: She'll Be Coming 'Round the Mountain
Class 4: Liberty Bell March (also known as "Monty Python Theme")
Class 5: The Washington Post March (also sounds similar to "Willian Tell Act" by Charlie Chaplin)
·English Class: Piéces de Clavecin en concert; La Timide - Jean-Philippe Rameau
·Art Class: Come With the Night (Drum Patterns) - Sugar Stick (also resembles "Test Area - Broadcast" or "Serpent Magique - Tangerine Dream")
·Photography Class/BMX Park (*After The Release!): Automatic - Shawn Lee & AM (for observation, the Bike Park and Photography theme are slightly different, not the same)
·Biology: Dara Factor One - Weather Report Music, Heist in Helsinki (*After The Release!) - Shawn Lee's Ping Pong Orchestra
\Geography class uses a medley of characteristic instruments and sounds of world nations*
★ Cliques & Boss fights
·Vendetta Non-Clique: Ode To Billie Joe - Lou Donaldson
·Vendetta Bullies: Skin Therapy - Mr. Dibbs (also features in Tony Hawk's Underground 2003 Game), And on the Sixth Day - Pat Williams
·Vendetta Nerds/Stronghold Assault (Nerd Boss Fight): Casio VL-1 Tone (Sampler), Da Da Da - Trio (not only the song but the nerds cliques itself looks heavy inspired by the movie Revenge of the Nerds, some themes would also fit for Nerds in particular "Burning Down The House by Talking Heads")
·Vendetta Preppies: Billie Jean - Michael Jackson, Whip it - Devo
·Vendetta Greasers: Play For Today - The Cure, Private Idaho - B-52's, Disorder - Joy Division
·Vendetta Jocks: Amen, Brother - The Winstons, Drums Away - The Simon Song (Drums Intro), The Assembly Line - Commodores (this one use one of the most famous samples in music the "Amen Break" by Winstons as initially mentioned)
·Vendetta Dropouts/Townie Challenge: Tédio - Biquíni Cavadão, I Love Rock 'N Roll - The Arrows (Original Composers) *the guitar riff and bass pattern is extremely similar to "Pretty Fly by Offspring" but the song "Tédio" is alot older and still more accurate to the townies theme
·Russell in the Hole: Firestarter (Drum Patterns) - Prodigy, Devotion (Voice of Paradise) - Ten City
·Dishonorable Fight: Eye of the Tiger, Burning Heart - both by Survivor
·Fighting Johnny Vincent: Boogie Woodie - The Beach Boys, Caldonia Boogie - Louis Jordan (also covered by James Brown) *this song line is also referred as "The Walking Bass" featured in many Classic Rock songs
·The Big Game (Jock Boss Fight): Just Like Heaven, A Forest - The Cure, Harmonia - Dino
·Showdown at the Plant: Headhunter - Front 242, Are You Red..Y - The Clash
·Final Showdown: Underwater March - Klaus Badelt, 2001 NBA Ultimate Player (Film Score) *God of War (2018) Game also has a similar tone in "Spartan Rage" overture by Bear McCreary
★... Uncertain? ...Suggestions
·Bully Main Theme (Running Theme): Maniac - Michael Sembello, the synthesizer effect looks an interpolation of the xylophone effect used in the game.
·Overworld (Walking Theme) - The Phantom of the Opera Motion Picture Overture (this also resambles "echoes" by pink floyd but that peculiar melody is more predominant in this theme), Let's Ge Started (Bass Only) - Black Eyed Peas, it looks heavily inspired by Dario Argento movies (as the overall soundtrack).
·Here's to you Ms. Philips/Last Minute Shopping/Cook's Crush/Discretion Assured/Finding Johnny Vincent/Revenge on Mr. Burton "Part 1" (The Search): Sounds similar to "Tenant - Siouxsie And The Banshees", people often confuse this theme to "Cheating Time" but the track is named "Here's to you Ms. Philips" as does the mission, it also resembles a Giorgio Gaslini piece an italian jazz pianist or the american compositor Henry Mancini the creator of Pink Panther iconic theme.
·Panty Raid/Galloway Away/Cheating Time (Stealth): Love Theme From "The Godfather" or "Speak Softly, Love" or just The Godfather Theme from Nino Rota a renowned italian composer, written by Larry Kusik, also resembles the song "Hey by Pixies".
·Comic Klepto: Where’d You Go - Fort Minor e Jonah Matranga (interpolation), also resembles Gramatik, Transplants, Flobots or X-Ecutiornes style of song.
·Funhouse Fun/ Funhouse (Ambience): Carnival of the Animals; Introduction and Royal March of the Lion ("Marche Royale du Lions") - Camille Saint-Saëns (interpolation)
·Funhouse Graveyard "Carnival Funhouse Graveyard" (Unused/Beta): Lux Aeterna - Clint Mansell & Kronos Quartet; Requiem For A Killer Movie Score
·Shop Class "Auto Repair Shop": Sounds similar to Star Guitar - Chemical Brothers, Cities in the Dust - Siouxie And The Banshees
·Math Class (Beta): Sounds similar to Nightmare on Elm Street Theme
·Gym Class/Lockpicking/Jocks Challenge: Sounds similar to "Resucitó" an old catholic song
·Bike Shop "Shiny Bikes": Sounds similar to Billy Club - Junkie XL, Horndog - Overseer
·Greaser's Hideout/Greaser's Challenge "Blue Balls Pool House" "Tattoo Parlor" & "The Happy Mullet": Sounds similar to In-Cut Overdrive - Tomonori Sawada; Sega Rally 2006 Game
·Townies/Dropouts Hideout "Dropout Hangout": Sounds similar to Babel - Covenant
★ Still Missing... Unknown?
·Chemistry Class: although i can't find a matching song it doesn't sound like music per se
·Math Class (Main): definitely a funky/soul tune, unfortunately i couldn't find a corresponding song for it
·Nut Shots: resembles Gradius songs a game by Konami or AiAce Combat a Namco Game
I REALLY LOVE BUNNIES, THEY'RE SO NICE!
I Hope you like it 😎👍
2023.05.31 13:02 FelicitySmoak_ On This Day In Michael Jackson HIStory - May 31st
 | 1968 - The Jackson 5 perform a week long gig at the Capitol Theater (closed- 1985) in Chicago, Illinois submitted by FelicitySmoak_ to MichaelJackson [link] [comments] 1977 - Michael visits Studio 54, where he parties with Steve Rubell, Steven Tyler & Cherrie Currie among others, after opening day of Beatlemania, a Broadway musical revue focused on the music of the Beatles as it related to the events of the 1960s, in New York City https://preview.redd.it/n1imi1ykm03b1.jpg?width=307&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f20bc980b34b8b2bbe1c132e6822b46c9e84a749 https://preview.redd.it/vm17bdolm03b1.jpg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73ef9676efd6f8668c470335d98dec2f83045f69 1993 - The World Music Awards, which was filmed on May 12th, airs with Michael winning 3 awards 1997 - Michael Jackson begins the second leg of HIStory World Tour, with a show at Waserstadion in Bremen, Germany, to an audience of 85,000 https://preview.redd.it/psw7krbrm03b1.jpg?width=144&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=593ef3efc57e24dd7827481d813164766261cc85 2005 - Trial Day 63 Jurors in the Michael Jackson trial had the day off as lawyers wrangled over the instructions they were to be given for their deliberations. Judge Melville announced that closing arguments would begin Thursday morning (in 2 days), while jurors would receive the instructions the afternoon before. Jackson was not present in court as lawyers hammered out the jurors written instructions. Spokesperson Raymone Bain said he "is going through a lot of emotions right now -- relief that it's over, but very nervous. Because, of course you know, a very major decision is going to be made within the next several days." In a move expected to favor prosecutors, Judge Melville said he would reduce the alcohol charge from a felony to a misdemeanor. The change in the charge came at the request of prosecutors and was met with objections from the singers defense. Prosecutors allege that Jackson supplied alcohol to his accuser and younger brother. Legal experts say the misdemeanor charge will be easier to prove, but would carry a lesser sentence, most likely a fine or a short term in county jail. The felony charge alone would have carried a 2- 4 year sentence in state prison. The Judge will also instruct the jury not to take the Living with Michael Jackson documentary for the truth of what is said except for certain identified passages. "The rest is considered hearsay and you can only consider that it aired and its impact if any on Mr. Jackson," said Judge Melville. He did not specify which passages were being referred to. Lawyers also argued about how jurors should determine the credibility of witnesses and how they should consider the past allegations against Jackson. The Judge said jurors would be told to consider the alleged past acts only if they "tend to show [Jacksons] intent" with regard to the current charges against him. The approved jury instructions read: "Evidence has been introduced for the purpose of showing the defendant committed crimes other than those for which he is on trial," the approved instructions read. "This evidence, if believed, may be considered by you only for the limited purpose of deciding if it tends to show a characteristic plan or scheme to commit acts." Judge Melville will tell jurors that they are entitled to ignore the testimony of witnesses who lied purposefully, but said they were not required to do so if they felt the witnesses were truthful in other regards. Today's arguments from lawyers went on for hours, prompting defense attorney Robert Sanger to say: "Your honor, if we had televised today's proceedings we could have deterred an entire generation of kids from going to law school." Later, during a discussion of an instruction to jurors not to bring cell phones into deliberations, Sanger quipped, "That replaced the old one that had to do with bringing Ouija boards in." The absence of both Mesereau and prosecutor Ron Zonen has led to speculation that the two attorneys are working on their closing arguments for Thursday. Court Transcript https://preview.redd.it/xovn26itm03b1.jpg?width=470&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9ca42132cec02b6845b9ced4e122342ee763233 https://preview.redd.it/ulpi709um03b1.jpg?width=408&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90118c868b63ecd297ee48ef145c6372770a4a28 2006 - Michael Jackson makes a surprise appearance on the popular SMAPXSMAP variety show in Japan. He shocks everyone in the studio as they cannot believe it is really him https://i.redd.it/kh44axlvm03b1.gif 2013 - Jackson v AEG Trial Day 21 Court is a half day today between the hours of 9 AM - 1 PM. Katherine and Rebbie Jackson are at court. Paul Gongaware AEG Cross Putnam asked Gongaware if he had any understanding as to why Michael was taking painkillers. "Before the 3rd leg of the Dangerous tour started, he had scalp surgery, hit nerve or something it was very painful; was treated for that .When he did the Pepsi commercial, his hair was burn at the top," Gongaware explained, saying they did surgery so hair would look natural. "I didn't know it was an addiction"Gongaware said & that he learned MJ had drug problems after Mexico City. Gongaware did a Rod Stewart tour in North America after Dangerous tour. He next worked with Michael in the HIStory tour in 1996/97 Gongaware said he did not have a general concern with Michael having a drug addiction. After shows ended in Hawaii, Michael had lost $27 million, was in debt $11 million to lighting and sound, Gongaware testified. He switched managers to fix things in the second half of the tour, Gongaware explained. Gongaware said he had to cut lots of expenses. They wanted to give Michael the same show, but he said there was so much excess to be trimmed. Second half of the tour, Gongaware was the tour executive and he worked directly for Michael. It netted $14 million, $11 million paid vendors. We got the tour to break even, Gongaware testified, saying he worked closely with Jackson on the second half of the tour Putnam: "Was there an ongoing concern Mr. Jackson was having problems with painkillers during the HIStory tour?"Gongaware said he didn't see anything that would suggest Michael was addicted to painkillers. He testified that Michael didn't have a doctor traveling with him on the second half of the tour and there was no tour doctor with the tour. Putnam: "How was Michael on the HIStory tour?"Gongaware said MJ only missed one show on HIStory tour when Princess Diana died. "He went to bed, knew about the accident.". Michael was told Diana was going to be okay and next morning he learned she died, Gongaware described. "That affected him greatly." Gongaware said he missed shows in Dangerous tour but not in HIStory tour. Putnam asked if there were signs MJ was using painkillers during HIStory tour. "No indication at all. I didn't think he was," Gongaware said. He said he would certainly notice if there was any problem during that tour. Gongaware said HIStory tour was pretty smooth. It ended in 1997. Right after, Gongaware said Michael called him and asked him to work for him. "He liked my work, he liked what I did," Gongaware said, adding that Michael wanted him to be his business manager. Gongaware said he didn't accept the offer and decided to go out on his own to promote concerts. He was tempted, Gongaware said, but he had lined up what he wanted to do. He worked with Yani next. AEG defense attorney Marvin Putnam then asked Gongaware to describe the founding of his company, and its purchase by AEG. Gongaware had co-founded a new version of a company called Concerts West. Gongaware and his partner, John Meglen, created Concerts West in the late 90s. Concerts West started out with concerts of Andrea Bocceli, Mariah Carrey, Eagles and Millennium at Staples Center. AEG acquired the assets of Concerts West around 2000, Gongaware said, and Concerts West became AEG Live. Randy Phillips is AEG's CEO.Gongaware said he made a deal that requires him to work only half time starting this year Putnam then asked Gongaware about plaintiff's contention that AEG was desperate for This Is It because it wanted to pass rival Live Nation. "It's so much bigger", AEG Live exec Paul Gongaware said of Live Nation. "It is so much more complicated"; He said that Live Nation has to find artists to fill the many venues it owns, and that AEG Live doesn't have that issue. Gongaware said AEG Live is the second largest concert promoter company. Live Nation is the first. "Our philosophy is different," Gongaware said, adding they choose what they want to do, whereas Live Nation has to meet their quota. Putnam: "Would you like to be number 1?"Next time Gongaware worked with Michael was on the This Is It tour. Peter Lopez, Michael's attorney, called Gongaware's partner in 2007, asked to meet. From 1997 to 2009, MJ did not do any touring, only a couple of shows. Gongaware said he went to Vegas to meet with Michael in 2007. The meeting was to discuss how AEG did tours, didn't talk about him touring. They met again in 2008, also in Vegas. "Paul Gongaware! I knew that if you came, things were going to be ok," Michael said about him. Gongaware said Jackson remembered him and told him regarding the HIStory tour, "Whenever I saw you, I knew things were going to be OK" Putnam asked about Gongaware's use of the term 'Mikey' to describe Jackson. Gongaware said he used it with Jackson. He described Jackson as getting in playful moods, and that's when he would call him Mikey; Said he wasn't mocking him. "Mikey was not meant as an insult", Gongaware said. Putnam: "Did he seem thin in 07?"Gongaware said Michael was alert, engaged, interested in what was going on in the meeting in 2007. He wanted to do a King Tut mini-movie. The next meeting with Michael was in NY. Gongaware didn't remember what they discussed. Sometime in 08, they began discussion of Michael going back on tour. Dr. Tohme, Michael's manager, approached AEG. Randy Phillips was primarily the one involved in the discussions with Dr. Tohme and Peter Lopez regarding the comeback tour. The meeting in 2008 began with discussion of a possible MJ exhibit at the Hilton in Las Vegas. Colony Capital is an investment company that bought the note of Neverland, Gongaware said. By 'note' he meant the 'mortgage'. "They (Colony) were trying to figure out what to do with Neverland" Gongaware talked about being at Michael's house at Carolwood when the singer signed the contract with AEG for the This Is It tour. "Michael read everything in the contract", Gongaware said. He remembered Michael being engaged, alert and paying attention. "He was good.I felt great about it," Gongaware said. "It was a Michael Jackson tour, it was a great thing." Gongaware said he watched Michael pretty carefully in the meetings, he knew Michael had went to rehab, but he didn't see any signs of drug problems. Gongaware said he was aware of the physical exam done on Jackson after the signing for the tour.Email on 2/11/09 from Bob Taylor to Gongaware: Thanks Paul. I now have the medical and blood reports. Looks good. I now need more info of what is available. This will help with the presentation to the insurers. I would like to offer insurers a medical update say every 21 days.Response from Gongaware: I'm not ready to put anything in writing.Gongaware said it was because he didn't have the answers. Gongaware said he did not have concerns with Michael abusing prescription drugs. "It just confirmed what I believed, that he was fine. He wasn't doing any drugs," Gongaware said about the results of Michael's physical exam. A February 2009 email between him and the insurance broker showed that insurers wanted med checkups on Jackson every 21 days. The broker also wanted details on the concert set, dates, and other details that Gongaware said weren't decided on yet. "The back to back shows WILL be a problem", the broker wrote Gongaware. Suggested adding them in after Jackson started performing shows. AEG produced/promoted the This Is It I tour. "We needed to front all the money," Gongaware said. "He didn't have the money, so he needed us to do it." Tohme, Michael's manager, told AEG about needing the money. Gongaware said Tohme emphasized several times that Michael needed to make money. Gongaware said Michael and Ortega figured out the creative elements they wanted and Gongaware had to figure out how to make them happen. Gongaware said the initial phase of rehearsal was done at Center Staging in Burbank, but venue didn't have room for production elements. They moved rehearsals to The Forum, which didn't have a high ceiling to hang the lights. Then they moved to Staples Center. After the morning break, Gongaware said Michael chose This Is It as the name because it was going to be his last. Gongaware: "You never know what kind of business a tour will do. We had no idea the demand, we wanted to make sure it was successful. Initially, they had 31 shows scheduled"Gongaware said Prince had done 21 shows at the O2 arena, and Michael wanted to do 10 more. "You didn't know what the ticket sales would be," Gongaware said. So they announced only 10 shows to test the waters. "Demand was there obviously in the presale," Gongaware said. He talked to Tohme, asked for more than 50 shows. Tohme said Michael would do 50. On March 5, 2009, Michael held a press conference in front of O2 arena and announced the comeback tour. Gongaware was present. Michael was not on time, late by a couple of hours. Gongaware said it didn't surprise him since Michael didn't like to do those things (press conferences) "His schedules don't always run like clockwork", said Gongaware, who was a little annoyed by it but not surprised. "Michael came up to me, gave me a big hug, whispered in my ear 'make sure the Teleprompter has big words, I don't have my glasses'" Gongaware said. Putnam: "Did he seem inebriated?"Gongaware thought the press conference was great. "The reaction of the press was really good, I think people liked he was returning." Gongaware said they asked people to register on a website and only people registered could get into the presale to purchase tickets. He said that based on the response, they knew the tour was going to be a major success "He was good," the AEG executive testified. "I think he was excited" One day after that, Gongaware said Michael called him to discuss the tour. He said Michael chose Kenny Ortega to direct the show. "Michael liked special effects", Gongaware said. He put together a presentation for Michael with the latest effects and made him promise he would show up. Demonstration was on 3/16/09 at Sony Studios. It had 3D on LED that was never done before, pyro and new type of flame. Putnam showed a clip of the This Is It documentary where there are the pyro effects that were going to be used. "He loved it," Gongaware said, adding Michael didn't seem to be bothered with pyro usage. Gongaware said there was a pretty cool water fountain effect shown and not used. "It was messy," he described. "He was really engaged, as he saw all the effects he got really excited." Gongaware said he had no concern that Michael had drug problems, didn't seem slow or lethargic in March of 2009. A meeting was scheduled for March 17, 09. Gongaware emailed Michael's assistant that only Michael and Kenny Ortega should be in that meeting. "They were the creative forces and needed to find the show's path before including everyone else", Gongaware explained Regarding Kenny Ortega watching out for Michael's health, Gongaware said no one at AEG asked him to do that. Gongaware thought Ortega watched out because they were friends and worked together. Gongaware will join The Rolling Stones tour this weekend, but will return on Monday to resume testifying Court Transcript |
2023.05.30 18:32 chronic-venting Katy Butler covered the Ramona recovered-memory trial in Napa County last spring for the _Los Angeles Times_ magazine. She is a staff writer for the _San Francisco Chronicle_ and works as a consulting editor for _Psychotherapy Networker_
February 5, 1995
On May 8, 1991, seven years after her father's death, a graying, impeccably groomed former Miss America named Marilyn Van Derbur walked to a podium in a small auditorium on the University of Colorado's Denver campus. Announcing a family gift of $260,000 to a university research program on child sexual abuse, the onetime Outstanding Woman Speaker in America said that her late father, Francis—a millionaire philanthropist whose name was inscribed on the local Boy Scout building—had repeatedly violated her between the ages of 5 and 18.
Van Derbur said she had no conscious memories of what her father had done to her until she was 24. She had coped, she said, by somehow splitting herself. A high-achieving "day child" skied, played the piano and studied hard—utterly failing to incorporate any awareness of a mute, terrified "night child" whose legs, she said, were repeatedly pried apart in the darkness by her father's insistent hands.
Van Derbur thought she was speaking only to the people in the room that night, but a reporter was there taking notes. Her secret—the kind once taken to the grave or contained in the female domain of gossip—was about to cross the border into the public realm and become news.
Within a day or two, radio talk shows were debating whether she was lying, deluded or telling the truth. Her total "forgetting" of repeated horrors for many years seemed to defy common sense.
Three days after the speech, Marilyn Van Derbur's oldest sister, Gwen, an attorney in Hillsborough, Calif., told the Rocky Mountain News that she, too, had been molested by their father—but she had never forgotten. With that, most questions about Marilyn Van Derbur's credibility and memory ended, and last year her father's name was removed from the Denver Boy Scout building.
But the floodgates had been opened. If power consists in part of determining whose stories will be told and whose believed, the balance of power was shifting. After nearly a century in which many psychiatrists—most of them [cis] male—dismissed such reports as hysterical fantasies, women and men who were sexually abused in childhood lost patience with being spoken about and began to speak for themselves. It was as though Lolita had taken the pen from Humbert Humbert's hand.
The revelations began in the 1980s at 12-step meetings for Adult Children of Alcoholics; they were whispered to a new generation of mostly female therapists whose clients were financially independent women. By 1994, more than 800,000 women had bought a self-help book called The Courage to Heal.
A window had opened, letting in darkness rather than light. Never before in history had so many women accused so many seemingly respectable men.
Little attention has been paid to the feelings of parents accused of abuse—either the innocent or the guilty. Now a comforting counter-explanation for the nation's wave of [incestuous abuse] revelation is being advanced: The problem is not abuse so much as an epidemic of false memories of it, fomented by therapists who suspect it when none has occurred.
The most formidable intellectual champions of this view are cognitive psychologist Elizabeth Loftus, the author, with journalist Katherine Ketcham, of The Myth of Repressed Memory, and Pulitzer Prize-winning social psychologist Richard Ofshe, the author, with journalist Ethan Watters, of Making Monsters. Both argue that an [incestuous abuse] recovery culture—purveyed in self-help and pop psychology books, on TV shows and by reckless therapists—has induced thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of women to falsely accuse their parents.
Loftus, a cognitive psychologist and an eminent memory researcher at the University of Washington, is not a therapist but a hard scientist, an expert on the malleability of memory. She is skeptical of all therapeutic theories (such as the concept of "repression") that have never been scientifically proven and skeptical of "recovered memories" of abuse because, as she writes in her book, she was secretly molested by a male baby-sitter when she was 6 and has never forgotten.
Her concern for the falsely accused has been shaped by nearly 20 years as an expert witness in criminal trials. As she described in a previous book, Witness for the Defense (1991), she tells juries that memory is not a pristine videotape, but subject to distortion, reconstruction, over-dubbing and erasure from stress, retelling, suggestion and the passage of time.
As she recounts in the current book, Loftus began in 1991 to apply her research to the incest debate. She got five university students and colleagues—about 20% of those who tried—to get a younger relative (in two cases young children) to report a mildly traumatic "false memory." They did it by mixing accurate details with a false event—mentioning a familiar shopping mall, for example, and then "reminding" the subject of being lost there until rescued by a fictitious stranger. Based on such limited studies, Loftus speculates that traumatic "memories" of [incestuous abuse] have been implanted unwittingly by therapists in thousands of women.
This view is supported by about 16,000 parents who have contacted the False Memory Syndrome Foundation of Philadelphia since 1992 to say they have been wrongly accused. Their daughters (and some sons), they say, developed "false memories" after reading The Courage to Heal, joining an [incestuous abuse] recovery group or being hypnotized or encouraged to draw or write about their childhoods by their therapists.
[...]
Making Monsters also uses case studies to build a broad attack on all therapy centered on the past. Therapy, Ofshe and Watters argue [...], is less a science than a system of influence, suggestion and belief. In the office, clients construct "narratives" of their lives that usually highlight what the therapist thinks is important: childhood trauma, perhaps, rather than present time. Do women benefit, he asks, from a life lived through a rearview mirror? It's a provocative argument, though it seems overstated: What happens to us affects us, after all.
[...]
That said, their books are not the dispassionate work of scientists. In Ofshe and Watters' book, the [incestuous abuse] recovery movement—composed primarily of women who have never forgotten memories of garden-variety abuse—has "morphed" into the "recovered memory movement," a quasi-cult of hysterical women devoted to explaining away all present problems by dowsing for a traumatic past.
[...]
While decrying as "pseudoscientific" the credulity of [incestuous abuse recovery] therapists, both Ofshe and Loftus seem remarkably uninterested in the vagaries of memory of those who have sexually abused children. Psychotherapists who work regularly with such men and women report that they frequently have alcohol problems that affect memory, or deny what they've done and admit or remember it months or years later.
Loftus makes only a glancing reference to Marilyn Van Derbur, and Ofshe does not mention her at all; nor do they discuss many other cases that might contradict these books' central article of faith. Loftus, curiously, does not include any reference to a scientific study she co-published last year in the Psychology of Women Quarterly; in the study, which would appear to contradict the title of her own book, more than half of the 105 women questioned at a substance abuse center reported having been sexually abused as children, and almost a fifth of that group reported a period of total forgetting, after which their memories returned.
Ofshe, for his part, tells readers that by "conservative estimate" 15% of "recovered memory therapy" cases eventually involve allegations of ritual abuse. That statistic is as unscientific as the wildest overestimates of incest; it comes from a voluntary survey of 500 members of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, the support group for accused parents.
Almost all of Ofshe and Watters' case studies are hidden behind pseudonyms from independent inquiry, forcing the reader to trust the writer's conclusions rather than see how they were reached. The looseness with which he treats the material is evident in Chapter 6 of Making Monsters. Here he tells the story of "Jane"—a Washington state woman called Lynn Crook who has identified herself in a letter she circulated to the media disputing Ofshe's account. In Ofshe's account, Crook was led down the garden path by self-help books and therapists until she fabricated horrible memories of sexual abuse by her father, a respectable physician. Two of her sisters, apparently caught up in the hysteria, supposedly then interpreted vague and ambiguous memories as signs that they, too, had been abused. Crook sued her father (both Ofshe and Loftus appeared as expert witnesses at the trial) and, reportedly to "empower" herself, sought out a local newspaper reporter. As the chapter ends, she appears headed into the delusionary territory of satanic ritual abuse: She recalls seeing a crowd standing around a bonfire in masks, robes.
Although this chapter is told as though Ofshe and Watters can read Crook's mind—her "heart races" at one point—they did not interview her or the sisters who testified on her behalf. The tale is an embellished reconstitution of the court records, and discrepancies in the details do not inspire confidence in Ofshe and Watters' contention that Crook's memories were caused by reckless therapy and the reading of self-help books. The authors have fiddled with the timeline, making it appear that Crook read and positively reviewed The Courage to Heal before, rather than after, she recovered memories of abuse. Crook, in fact, never told anyone that she had informed a local reporter of her suit against her father to "empower" herself; she responded to a phone call from a reporter who ran across the legal filing. One of Crook's sisters supposedly testified that her father had once told her to close her legs; the book, however, omits the last half of the father's reported sentence—"or I'll think you want me." And while Crook's therapist's notes did refer to a frightening memory of people standing around a bonfire in masks, the reference to robes was invented, making the memory sound more indicative of the delusions of satanic ritual abuse that Ofshe seems eager to find everywhere.
Ofshe omits from this account any reference to his own role in the lawsuit. In the court records, Judge Dennis D. Yule comments: "Just as (Ofshe) accuses (therapists) of resolving at the outset (to find) repressed memories of abuse and then constructing them, he has resolved at the outset to find a macabre scheme of memories progressing toward satanic cult ritual and then creates them."
Inaccurate reporting like this takes a book like Making Monsters beyond polemic to backlash.
Sadly, we live in a world that produces its share of Jeffrey Dahmers, Ted Bundys, John Wayne Gacys, Susan Smiths and Francis Van Derburs; the public face people turn toward the world may have little relation to the one expressed in private. Yet if these authors have ever met guilty parents, they haven't written about them. They seem to accept most protestations of parental innocence at face value, even those as half-hearted and ambiguous as "I don't remember doing this" or "I don't think so."
They write movingly of the anguish of parents whose daughters accuse them of horrible crimes, but seem remarkably insensitive to sexually abused children. Families in which [sexual abuse] charges surface are described as "shattered"; but families in which [sexual abuse] really happened were secretly shattered long before anyone brought the truth to light.
[...] the danger is that books like Making Monsters and The Myth of Repressed Memory will once again silence women and men from speaking—and being believed—about very real abuse, and will create a new breed of experts who will once again presume to know the truth.
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On May 8, 1991, seven years after her father's death, a graying, impeccably groomed former Miss America named Marilyn Van Derbur walked to a podium in a small auditorium on the University of Colorado's Denver campus. Announcing a family gift of $260,000 to a university research program on child sexual abuse, the onetime Outstanding Woman Speaker in America said that her late father, Francis—a millionaire philanthropist whose name was inscribed on the local Boy Scout building—had repeatedly violated her between the ages of 5 and 18.
Van Derbur said she had no conscious memories of what her father had done to her until she was 24. She had coped, she said, by somehow splitting herself. A high-achieving "day child" skied, played the piano and studied hard—utterly failing to incorporate any awareness of a mute, terrified "night child" whose legs, she said, were repeatedly pried apart in the darkness by her father's insistent hands.
Van Derbur thought she was speaking only to the people in the room that night, but a reporter was there taking notes. Her secret—the kind once taken to the grave or contained in the female domain of gossip—was about to cross the border into the public realm and become news.
Within a day or two, radio talk shows were debating whether she was lying, deluded or telling the truth. Her total "forgetting" of repeated horrors for many years seemed to defy common sense.
Three days after the speech, Marilyn Van Derbur's oldest sister, Gwen, an attorney in Hillsborough, Calif., told the Rocky Mountain News that she, too, had been molested by their father—but she had never forgotten. With that, most questions about Marilyn Van Derbur's credibility and memory ended, and last year her father's name was removed from the Denver Boy Scout building.
But the floodgates had been opened. If power consists in part of determining whose stories will be told and whose believed, the balance of power was shifting. After nearly a century in which many psychiatrists—most of them [cis] male—dismissed such reports as hysterical fantasies, women and men who were sexually abused in childhood lost patience with being spoken about and began to speak for themselves. It was as though Lolita had taken the pen from Humbert Humbert's hand.
The revelations began in the 1980s at 12-step meetings for Adult Children of Alcoholics; they were whispered to a new generation of mostly female therapists whose clients were financially independent women. By 1994, more than 800,000 women had bought a self-help book called The Courage to Heal.
A window had opened, letting in darkness rather than light. Never before in history had so many women accused so many seemingly respectable men.
Little attention has been paid to the feelings of parents accused of abuse—either the innocent or the guilty. Now a comforting counter-explanation for the nation's wave of [incestuous abuse] revelation is being advanced: The problem is not abuse so much as an epidemic of false memories of it, fomented by therapists who suspect it when none has occurred.
The most formidable intellectual champions of this view are cognitive psychologist Elizabeth Loftus, the author, with journalist Katherine Ketcham, of The Myth of Repressed Memory, and Pulitzer Prize-winning social psychologist Richard Ofshe, the author, with journalist Ethan Watters, of Making Monsters. Both argue that an [incestuous abuse] recovery culture—purveyed in self-help and pop psychology books, on TV shows and by reckless therapists—has induced thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of women to falsely accuse their parents.
Loftus, a cognitive psychologist and an eminent memory researcher at the University of Washington, is not a therapist but a hard scientist, an expert on the malleability of memory. She is skeptical of all therapeutic theories (such as the concept of "repression") that have never been scientifically proven and skeptical of "recovered memories" of abuse because, as she writes in her book, she was secretly molested by a male baby-sitter when she was 6 and has never forgotten.
Her concern for the falsely accused has been shaped by nearly 20 years as an expert witness in criminal trials. As she described in a previous book, Witness for the Defense (1991), she tells juries that memory is not a pristine videotape, but subject to distortion, reconstruction, over-dubbing and erasure from stress, retelling, suggestion and the passage of time.
As she recounts in the current book, Loftus began in 1991 to apply her research to the incest debate. She got five university students and colleagues—about 20% of those who tried—to get a younger relative (in two cases young children) to report a mildly traumatic "false memory." They did it by mixing accurate details with a false event—mentioning a familiar shopping mall, for example, and then "reminding" the subject of being lost there until rescued by a fictitious stranger. Based on such limited studies, Loftus speculates that traumatic "memories" of [incestuous abuse] have been implanted unwittingly by therapists in thousands of women.
This view is supported by about 16,000 parents who have contacted the False Memory Syndrome Foundation of Philadelphia since 1992 to say they have been wrongly accused. Their daughters (and some sons), they say, developed "false memories" after reading The Courage to Heal, joining an [incestuous abuse] recovery group or being hypnotized or encouraged to draw or write about their childhoods by their therapists.
[...]
Making Monsters also uses case studies to build a broad attack on all therapy centered on the past. Therapy, Ofshe and Watters argue [...], is less a science than a system of influence, suggestion and belief. In the office, clients construct "narratives" of their lives that usually highlight what the therapist thinks is important: childhood trauma, perhaps, rather than present time. Do women benefit, he asks, from a life lived through a rearview mirror? It's a provocative argument, though it seems overstated: What happens to us affects us, after all.
[...]
That said, their books are not the dispassionate work of scientists. In Ofshe and Watters' book, the [incestuous abuse] recovery movement—composed primarily of women who have never forgotten memories of garden-variety abuse—has "morphed" into the "recovered memory movement," a quasi-cult of hysterical women devoted to explaining away all present problems by dowsing for a traumatic past.
[...]
While decrying as "pseudoscientific" the credulity of [incestuous abuse recovery] therapists, both Ofshe and Loftus seem remarkably uninterested in the vagaries of memory of those who have sexually abused children. Psychotherapists who work regularly with such men and women report that they frequently have alcohol problems that affect memory, or deny what they've done and admit or remember it months or years later.
Loftus makes only a glancing reference to Marilyn Van Derbur, and Ofshe does not mention her at all; nor do they discuss many other cases that might contradict these books' central article of faith. Loftus, curiously, does not include any reference to a scientific study she co-published last year in the Psychology of Women Quarterly; in the study, which would appear to contradict the title of her own book, more than half of the 105 women questioned at a substance abuse center reported having been sexually abused as children, and almost a fifth of that group reported a period of total forgetting, after which their memories returned.
Ofshe, for his part, tells readers that by "conservative estimate" 15% of "recovered memory therapy" cases eventually involve allegations of ritual abuse. That statistic is as unscientific as the wildest overestimates of incest; it comes from a voluntary survey of 500 members of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, the support group for accused parents.
Almost all of Ofshe and Watters' case studies are hidden behind pseudonyms from independent inquiry, forcing the reader to trust the writer's conclusions rather than see how they were reached. The looseness with which he treats the material is evident in Chapter 6 of Making Monsters. Here he tells the story of "Jane"—a Washington state woman called Lynn Crook who has identified herself in a letter she circulated to the media disputing Ofshe's account. In Ofshe's account, Crook was led down the garden path by self-help books and therapists until she fabricated horrible memories of sexual abuse by her father, a respectable physician. Two of her sisters, apparently caught up in the hysteria, supposedly then interpreted vague and ambiguous memories as signs that they, too, had been abused. Crook sued her father (both Ofshe and Loftus appeared as expert witnesses at the trial) and, reportedly to "empower" herself, sought out a local newspaper reporter. As the chapter ends, she appears headed into the delusionary territory of satanic ritual abuse: She recalls seeing a crowd standing around a bonfire in masks, robes.
Although this chapter is told as though Ofshe and Watters can read Crook's mind—her "heart races" at one point—they did not interview her or the sisters who testified on her behalf. The tale is an embellished reconstitution of the court records, and discrepancies in the details do not inspire confidence in Ofshe and Watters' contention that Crook's memories were caused by reckless therapy and the reading of self-help books. The authors have fiddled with the timeline, making it appear that Crook read and positively reviewed The Courage to Heal before, rather than after, she recovered memories of abuse. Crook, in fact, never told anyone that she had informed a local reporter of her suit against her father to "empower" herself; she responded to a phone call from a reporter who ran across the legal filing. One of Crook's sisters supposedly testified that her father had once told her to close her legs; the book, however, omits the last half of the father's reported sentence—"or I'll think you want me." And while Crook's therapist's notes did refer to a frightening memory of people standing around a bonfire in masks, the reference to robes was invented, making the memory sound more indicative of the delusions of satanic ritual abuse that Ofshe seems eager to find everywhere.
Ofshe omits from this account any reference to his own role in the lawsuit. In the court records, Judge Dennis D. Yule comments: "Just as (Ofshe) accuses (therapists) of resolving at the outset (to find) repressed memories of abuse and then constructing them, he has resolved at the outset to find a macabre scheme of memories progressing toward satanic cult ritual and then creates them."
Inaccurate reporting like this takes a book like Making Monsters beyond polemic to backlash.
Sadly, we live in a world that produces its share of Jeffrey Dahmers, Ted Bundys, John Wayne Gacys, Susan Smiths and Francis Van Derburs; the public face people turn toward the world may have little relation to the one expressed in private. Yet if these authors have ever met guilty parents, they haven't written about them. They seem to accept most protestations of parental innocence at face value, even those as half-hearted and ambiguous as "I don't remember doing this" or "I don't think so."
They write movingly of the anguish of parents whose daughters accuse them of horrible crimes, but seem remarkably insensitive to sexually abused children. Families in which [sexual abuse] charges surface are described as "shattered"; but families in which [sexual abuse] really happened were secretly shattered long before anyone brought the truth to light.
[...] the danger is that books like Making Monsters and The Myth of Repressed Memory will once again silence women and men from speaking—and being believed—about very real abuse, and will create a new breed of experts who will once again presume to know the truth.
2023.05.30 13:03 FelicitySmoak_ On This Day In Michael Jackson HIStory - May 30th
 | 1970 - "The Love You Save" by the Jackson 5 enters the Billboard US Hot 100 singles chart at #45. In late June, will peak at #1 & stay there for 2 weeks submitted by FelicitySmoak_ to MichaelJackson [link] [comments] 1971 - The Jackson 5 play at the Fairgrounds Arena (now Jim Norick Arena) in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma on their 2nd national tour 1977 - The Jacksons perform “Keep On Dancing” on Numéro Un Joe Dassin taped at the Buttes-Chaumont Studios in Paris, France while on their European tour. It would air on July 2nd https://preview.redd.it/l7qs60bu1t2b1.jpg?width=583&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6097f10de11c1eed4db5c31fd60ee1164723854d https://preview.redd.it/u8bs840v1t2b1.jpg?width=535&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9656ff295d3383c08dab4328533c5ddcc738131f 1979 - On their Destiny Tour, The Jacksons play the Jim Norick Arena in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 1987 - The Los Angeles Times reports that Michael has submitted an official bid, for an undisclosed sum, for the remains of the late John Merrick, known as the Elephant Man, from the London Hospital Medical College which has kept them since Merrick’s death in 1890. Michael's manager, Frank DiLeo, commented “Jackson has no exploitative intentions whatsoever and cares about and is concerned with the Elephant Man as a dedicated and devoted collector of art and antiques" Also adding that Michael "has a high degree of respect for the memory of Merrick" 1992 - "In The Closet" peaked at #6 during it's 5th week on the Billboard chart. It would stay in the Top 40 for 11 weeks 1997 - HIStory tour rehearsals in Bremen, Germany 2000 - Dangerous (album) is certified 7X platinum by the RIAA. https://preview.redd.it/mux66z1m1t2b1.jpg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=534424417cb398602f1e05ad08738a2b71593424 https://preview.redd.it/d9mty4pm1t2b1.png?width=325&format=png&auto=webp&s=1e4d908b0017480477988d8cb306482571b7cf96 2000 - Michael announces that he has become a key partner & investor in HollywoodTicket.com, a promotional and marketing site that gives netizens the chance to win backstage passes to concerts & visits to film/tv show shoots. The amount he invested was not disclosed but it's understood to be in the millions 2003 - Michael attends a party at Robert Evan's house to celebrate Brett Ratner's Hillhaven Lodge: The Photo Book Pictures book launch. Brett Ratner is the director of Rush Hour. Later that same night, Michael shows up at a MTV Movie Awards post party at Ron Burkle's Beverly Hills Mansion where he meets Puff Daddy and Paris Hilton among others. https://preview.redd.it/dqatcf5r1t2b1.jpg?width=487&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15562776b7bed38a21cb83b55196fc88f4763164 https://preview.redd.it/lcfs3asr1t2b1.jpg?width=1707&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d44d91cf64ea078ecfc0e8d91a591feb80c49f6 https://preview.redd.it/nnogz5ls1t2b1.jpg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34428f4ce83bf04217c4d2b4b66e880d1ce86a1d 2005 - No court today due to the Memorial Day holiday 2006 - Michael Jackson takes his kids and his nanny Grace to Tokyo Disneyland. 2007 - A collection of almost 2000 Jackson family items dating from the mid-1960's to the early '90's goes to auction in the Hard Rock Cafe in Las Vegas. These are items from a storage warehouse that Henry Vaccaro came in to possession of after a failed business venture ended up in bankruptcy court. Items include Michael's gold record for Thriller, handwritten "ABC" lyrics & a signed Victory tour program 2013 - Jackson v AEG Trial Day 20 Katherine and Rebbie Jackson are in court. The court also heard an update on efforts to get emails and any other records from a computer used by Michael's former manager, Frank Dileo. Apparently an LA attorney has a copy of Dileo's computer hard drive. Attorneys are working to get a copy of the HD to both sides. The copy was revealed during a deposition of Dileo's widow earlier this week in Pennsylvania, plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish said Paul Gongaware Testimony Jackson direct Gongaware said he met with his attorneys again yesterday to refresh his recollection Panish asked if AEG was concerned about Mr. Jackson's health. "When he was sick we obviously had a concern," Gongaware responded. Gongaware said he understood Michael was sick from reading the chain of emails shown yesterday. But Gongaware told the jury he didn't have any particular concern about Michael Jackson other than on June 19th, no one told Gongaware about being concerned with his health. Gongaware testified that he disagreed with Houghdahl's opinion, saying he had no "particular concern" about Jackson's health and ability to perform Talking about the email Hougdahl sent saying Michael was deteriorating quickly, Gongaware explained: "I didn't see it the way he saw." Hougdahl, in response to concerns expressed by Travis Payne about Jackson's weight Email 6/15/09 from Hougdahl to Gongaware : He needs some cheeseburgers with a bunch of Wisconsin cheesehead bowlers and a couple of brats and beers"Was he joking around about this situation?" Panish asked Gongaware, referring to Hougdahl. "I think he was," Gongaware replied. "Did you think that was funny?" Panish asked. "I did," Gongaware admitted Panish asked about indemnity in Gongaware's contract. The exec said indemnity means that someone else is taking on the responsibility. "I haven't read my contract in 12/13 years, I don't know what it says," Gongaware said. Gongaware said he does not know how many pages his employment agreement is. Panish asked if he AEG would cover for Gongaware should they be found guilty. Gongaware said it was his understanding that he wouldn't be personally responsible financially if the jury sided with Jackson family. Panish: "That means if you did something wrong..."Adding that depending upon the size of the judgment, AEG could go after him. Panish asked how much AEG would be able to afford, and Gongaware said he didn't know. Panish emphasized there are various ways for AEG to pay a judgment, and Gongaware mentioned they had some sort of cancellation insurance. Panish went back to discuss the email from Randy Phillips where he wrote 'Dr. Murray didn't need the gig and was unbiased and ethical' Panish: "Is Mr. Phillips unbiased and ethical, sir?"Panish asked if it was ethical for Phillips to represent to Ortega that the doctor is 'extremely successful' and 'we checked everyone out'. Gongaware responded that he didn't know what Phillips knew at the time. Panish: "Is number one priority 'the show must go on'?"Panish showed the email from John Branca, saying he had the right therapist for Michael and asked if substance abuse was involved. "This is referring to the meeting that was going to happen and I was waiting to see the results of it," Gongaware said. "I didn't believe there was a substance abuse issue," Gongaware testified. "In the entire time I was dealing with him in this tour, I saw it once when he came back from his doctor," Gongaware testified. Gongaware said that was the only time he saw Michael with slurred speech and under the influence of something. Gongaware said he didn't know what Dr. Klein was giving Michael Jackson. When Panish asked Gongaware if he checked Dr. Klein out, he replied: "No, he was Michael's doctor and it was none of my business." Gongaware said he once observed Michael looking "slow" and possibly intoxicated after a visit to his dermatologist but he didn't believe he had any "serious health problems" even after Jackson appeared weak and disoriented at a June 19 rehearsal. "My observation of Michael Jackson was that he was healthy," Gongaware said. "They had a meeting to discuss (the June 19 incident), and he took a couple days off and he came back strong" As to insurance issues, Gongaware said he was involved only peripherally. On June 25, Gongaware sent an email saying that if they didn't get sickness coverage in the insurance, they would be dropping the policy. Gongaware said he didn't know why he was pressing for sickness insurance on the day Michael died. Bob Taylor, the insurance broker, wrote back that it was always down to the medical issued from the word go. Regarding Randy Phillips asking for life insurance the day Michael died, Gongaware said he didn't pay much attention to insurance, didn't recall. The day Michael died, Gongaware said Phillips called him and told him to get over to the house right away, there seems to be a problem. Randy followed the ambulance to UCLA. "The second call was that he informed me that he had died," Gongaware remembered. On June 25, Gongaware said he went to the rehearsal at the Staples Center and talked to Kenny Ortega. Panish: "Were you sad Mr. Jackson died?""He was a business associate", Gongaware said about Michael. They did not didn't hang out as friends Panish asked about Phillips' email directing Gongaware to remove thin, skeletal footage of Michael in the red jacket from This Is It documentary. Gongaware testified that he remembered receiving the email. In his deposition played in court, Gongaware said he didn't recall the email. Panish: "Did you change your testimony?"AEG Live president and co-chief executive Randy Phillips wrote in Aug. 9 email: Make sure we take out the shots of Michael in that red leather jacket at the sound stage where the mini-movies were being filmed. He looks way too think (sic) and skeletalGongaware replied to Phillips, his boss: ok will have a look when it comes on screenGongaware said he didn't try to control any of the messages about Michael after his death to reflect he was fully engaged in rehearsals. Panish asked about an email from Gongaware okay'ing the band, singers and dancer to give interviews but asked them to keep it positive In another email July 9, 2009, email to music coordinator JoAnn Tominaga, Gongaware wrote: We are ok with the band, singers and dancers doing interviews now. The only thing we ask is that they keep it positive and stress that Michael was active, engaged and not the emaciated person some want to paint him as being.Answering questions from Jackson family attorney Brian Panish, Gongaware said he was not trying to control the film's message. Panish: "You're telling them what not to say, aren't you sir?"Gongaware's testimony again emphasized the contrast between the answers he gave during his deposition under oath in December 2012 and his responses in the courtroom. In testimony, he agreed that Phillips meant "thin" in his email, instead of the word he typed, 'think'. Asked during the deposition what Phillips meant, he replied, "I don't know what he meant" Gongaware said nothing was taken out of the documentary, which included rehearsals for the scheduled 50 concerts in London. Gongaware promised in a follow-up email to Phillips that he'd "have a look," but he testified that he never dumped any footage. "We didn't keep anything out based on what Randy wrote," Gogaware told jurors. Gongaware testified that he did not know why Phillips would ask that. Gongaware said there were 15,000 tickets per show, $1.5 million in tickets per show, $47 million for all 31 shows. Tickets were selling at lightening fast, Gongaware said. "As fast as the system can sell.". The tickets were sold in March, Gongaware said. It was held by the arena, AEG had control of the money. Gongaware said merchandising was another way of making money. The building, which is owned by AEG, would keep the revenue of beverage sold. Gongaware said the beverage money would offset the arena rent, which Michael would not have to pay. Gongaware: "His (MJ) potential was great"Before lunch, Panish asked Gongaware whether This Is It was intended to be a multi-city tour. Gongaware said no, it was just going to be the 50 shows at London's O2 arena. "The only thing we knew was 50 shows in London. Michael had not agreed to anything else," Gongaware explained Panish asked Gongaware by the time the show was sold out, how many people were in the queue to buy tickets. "250,000 people were still in the queue, which would be enough to sell another 50 shows," Gongaware answered. During Murray's trial, Gongaware testified that 250k people still wanted tickets. He told that jury This Is It would be a multi-city tour. Panish: "Did you tell the truth when you testified in this case, sir?"Panish then concluded his questioning of Gongaware. AEG cross AEG's attorney, Marvin Putnam, did the questioning of Gongaware on behalf of the defendants. Putnam: "Have you ever been sued personally for the wrongful death of anyone?"Putnam asked about Gongaware's memory and he said it's okay Putnam asked Gongaware about some of the emails shown to jurors yesterday. Putnam was trying to show that not all the contents of the emails had been shown to jury. Some email addresses had been redacted. Attorney Brian Panish objected to the redactions, and got testy with the judge. It prompted another lengthy sidebar. When attorneys returned from the judge's chambers, Putnam resumed questioning Gongaware about emails sent to his private account Putnam said Gongaware handed over more than 13,000 emails in discovery from the This Is It period Putnam inquired about Gongaware's Kazoodi personal email account. On 6/20/09, the chain of emails with "Trouble at the Front" was sent there. Gongaware said he didn't remember receiving this email. Gongaware said he had more than one "Kazoodi" email account. He said he was not using the account the email was sent to on 6/20. "The account was closed at the time." Putnam presented Gongaware a document that indicated the private email account had been closed at the time. Gongaware said he never denied it was sent. Gongaware claimed yesterday was the first time he saw this chain of emails. Putnam used the closed email account to try to show Gongaware's testimony was truthful Putnam: "Why could you not recall e-mails?"Some of the e-mails were new to him because he was so busy putting Jackson's tour together that he never read them, he said. Gongaware said he was receiving hundreds of email a day at the height of 2008/09 tour preparation. "Mostly, it was just a time factor if it was something that didn't have to do with me" Gongaware said he doesn't have an office at AEG, and that he works on his own projects. He has an office at his house. Gongaware is the Co-CEO of AEG Live Concerts West with John Meglen. He said he was the co-founder of the company. Phillips is AEG Live CEO Gongaware explained be has been testifying about what he could recall. If he didn't remember, he said he told the jury he couldn't recall. Gongaware testified he looked at the emails after his deposition because he wanted to put everything together and see the bigger picture. Putnam: "Did you try to give your best testimony?" Gongaware: "Yes, I did" Regarding the phone call between Gongaware and Dr. Murray where the doctor asked about $5 million, Gongaware said he remembers that call. The next call between the two, it was the $150,000 call, where Gongaware offered the doctor $150k. Gongaware said those were the only two calls he had with Dr. Murray Gongaware said the 1st time he met Dr. Murray was a meeting at Michael's Carolwood house. He said MJ, Kenny, Randy, Frank & Dr Murray were present. Gongaware recalled the other meeting with Dr. Murray was an encounter with him at The Forum. He remembers saying hello to him. Gongaware said he's sure he didn't meet with Dr. Murray other than on those two occasions Gongaware said he promoted couple of shows/dances in college. He graduated in '69 from Waynesboro College in Pennsylvania in Accounting. He worked for Arthur Andersen in NYC after college as auditor. He said one needed two years of experience in order to get CPA license.The company ended up shutting down after being involved in the Enron scandal, Gongaware explained. He said there's a continuing education requirement in order to maintain his CPA license, but he hasn't kept current. "I didn't like that work," Gongaware said about leaving the practice. "I wanted to do things and not just be an accountant." Gongaware said he ski bummed for a winter and would do bookkeeping to pay for his lodge. His first big show was in Colorado -- he got The Grateful Dead to perform at Folsom Field in Boulder, Colo. He said he didn't know the band or any of its managers, but asked them to come to Colorado. They did, and the show was a hit. "The concert was sold out", Gongaware said, and he became an independent promoter. Around 1975, he met Terry Bassett who worked at Concerts West and Gongaware went to work for them in their Seattle office. He worked for them for about 10 years. Gongaware said he went to work for the company because the money was steady. At Concerts West, Gongaware worked with Bad Company, Led Zeppelin, Beach Boys, Chicago, Eric Clapton, among others. This Concerts West is not the same; he is the currently the co-CEO. Gongaware left Seattle and came to LA to work at Concerts West. He then went to Warner Miller Films. The company did primarily ski movies. Jerry Weintraub was Elvis' promoter and Concerts West assigned him to work with Colonel Parker, Elvis' manager. Gongaware was in his 20s when he worked with Elvis. He said when they'd announce an Elvis concert, there would be lines at the box office for 4 days. Gongaware said Colonel would buy ads on every radio station and promote the show. When tickets went on sale, Gongaware was to report to Colonel every hour regarding the ticket sales. Elvis Presley's death became a controversy at this trial as the man (Gongaware) who promoted both artists' last tours testified. He testified yesterday that Presley died of a drug overdose, but when his own lawyer questioned him today he changed his testimony to say Elvis died of a heart ailment. Presley collapsed in the bathroom of his Memphis, Tennessee, mansion, Graceland, on August 16, 1977, at the age of 42. While his death was ruled the result of an irregular heartbeat, the autopsy report was sealed amid accusations that abuse of prescription drugs caused the problem.How Presley died is relevant because Jackson lawyers argue Gongaware's experience as Elvis's promoter should have made him more aware of drug abuse by artists, including Michael Jackson. Although he worked advance promotion on Elvis Presley's last tours -- under the direction of Presley manager Colonel Tom Parker -- Gongaware testified he never met Presley. Putnam:"Did you understand he had a problem with drugs?"Around 1992, Gongaware went to work on the Dangerous tour with Michael. This was his first time working with Michael Jackson. He worked with the Jacksons in 2000 but he remembered working on a tour with the Jacksons prior to 92 and said Michael was part of the group. "I was the tour manager, handled the logistics and travel for the B party," Gongaware said, adding he worked for Michael but not for A party.
Putnam: "Were there any doctors in that tour?"Gongaware said Dr. Forecast was Michael's personal doctor. He didn't think Dr. Forecast treated anyone else, so they had Dr. Finkelstein also. Dr. Finkelstein, a general practitioner, was in the B party. They went to places where they didn't know the quality of local healthcare. Gongaware explained Dr. Finkelstein treated B, C and D parties. Gongaware said he did not see any doctor treat Michael. Dr. Finkelstein told Gongaware he treated Michael twice. Dr. Forecast wasn't in Bangkok yet, so Dr. Finkelstein treated him when he needed. "The King of Thailand said Michael would have to do the second show because his friends were attending", Gongaware recalled.Gongaware said the King put armed guards outside their doors to make sure they didn't leave Putnam: "During the Dangerous tour, had you come to have an understating that Michael had a problem with drugs or painkillers?"Gongaware said. He learned it had to do with drug addiction because Michael announced it. Putnam played the audio with Michael's statement: "My friends and doctors advised me to seek professional guidance immediately in order to eliminate what has become an addition. It is time for me to acknowledge my need for treatment"On Jun 25, 2009 Gabriel Sutter (a tech guy) wrote Gongaware a condolences email. "It was such an incredible shock to go through that experience," Gongaware explained. Gongaware's response on July 5, 2009: I was working on the Elvis tour when he died so I kind of knew what to expect"You have all these people out of work," Gongaware explained. "With Elvis some were without jobs permanently." Under questioning from Putnam, Gongaware said he didn't mean that he expected Jackson to die like Elvis. He was referring to the trauma of people losing their jobs because a tour is canceled and the estate taking over the legacy, he said. Putnam: "When you wrote the email, did you expect Michael to die?"Here's what Gongaware had to say about the role of the estate after Elvis died (and what he expected after Jackson's death.): "Then the estate takes over, and everything's different. You have nothing to say about anything"When one of his friends asked about his plans after Michael's death, Gongaware replied he was "trying to recover our losses from the show" "Michael died of overdose of Propofol. He didn't die of being sick or malnutrition", Gongaware said. He said that he had no idea of what Propofol was. "I had no idea" Jackson was using propofol in the weeks before his death, Gongaware testified Gongaware said he worked on Michael's memorial service. He was in charge of the tickets and worked closely with the family. He said he didn't charge for his work. Putnam: "Why did you work at the memorial service?"Court Transcript 2017 - Michael Jackson: Searching For Neverland, starring Navi as Michael, premieres on the Lifetime channel in the US |
2023.05.29 13:03 FelicitySmoak_ On This Day In Michael Jackson HIStory - May 29th
 | 1950 - Maureen Reillette "Rebbie" Jackson is born in Gary, Indiana. She is the first child born to Joe & Katherine Jackson submitted by FelicitySmoak_ to MichaelJackson [link] [comments] 1956 - La Toya Yvonne Jackson is born in Gary, Indiana. She is the 5th child & the middle daughter 1971 - The Jackson 5 play at the Indiana Fairgrounds Coliseum (now Indiana Farmers Coliseum) in Indianapolis, Indiana 1988 - Michael Jackson performs in concert to an audience of 53,600 at the Stadio Olimpico Grande Torino in Turin, Italy on his BAD World Tour https://preview.redd.it/pkmq55o7il2b1.jpg?width=188&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=565bf39b3c27e237092a868e3c590859d7c92852 1997 - Michael arrives in Bremen, Germany with Tarak Ben Ammar, on the HIStory World Tour. He meets the mayor of the city, Henning Scherf https://preview.redd.it/xxuqu9k5il2b1.jpg?width=419&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1efb677539f72da3a2130b05ebd0ce456aa3425d https://i.redd.it/rs245el6il2b1.gif Three month old Prince Michael Jr is taken to a Paris hotel suite where he is taken care of by his nannies Grace Rwaramba & Pia Bhatti. Michael joins him after each concert of the European tour. Debbie Rowe also flies every weekend to spend time with Michael & their son. 2006 - While still in Tokyo, Michael has business meetings in his hotel suite and then goes out shopping 2009 - Michael invites some fans into CenterStaging, where This Is It rehearsals are taking place. According to them he seemed worried, upset and his voice crackled as if he was on the verge of tears as he revealed that he had "gone to bed thinking it was 10 concerts and woke up finding out it was 50". Michael’s curly hair is back! https://preview.redd.it/ypg7sx42il2b1.jpg?width=150&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbdad990b37e3848f92fcbde269a5a09a4f5cc49 https://preview.redd.it/qfe4xg53il2b1.jpg?width=793&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37fd8a1992f87a862cd094f8d051b33d312194bc Later Michael goes for the second time in 10 days to a sound design studio on Magnolia Boulevard. 2013 - Jackson v AEG Trial Day 19 Katherine and Rebbie Jackson are at court. Paul Gongaware Testimony Jackson direct "My understanding Michael Jackson is a party (to the contract)," Gongaware said about Dr. Murray's contract. Gongaware told jury he's never looked at Conrad Murray's contract to serve as Michael Jackson's tour doctor Panish: "Why did AEG have to enter into a contract with Dr. Murray?" Gongaware: "I don't know about AEG terminating Dr. Murray"Gongaware said he didn't believe they could do it, because he was Michael's doctor. Gongaware said it was fair to say he didn't know why AEG would enter into a contract with a doctor for Michael Jackson. Panish asked Gongaware if Michael negotiated the price/contract with Dr. Murray. "I believe he did through me, he instructed me what to offer"Gongaware said he didn't know for sure whether Karen Faye was an independent contractor or not. "Dr. Murray would've been 100% charged to Michael Jackson," Gongaware testified.Gongaware said he didn't know what the $300k budgeted for medical management was for. Panish tried 'impeaching' Gongaware, which is the process of calling into question the credibility of an individual who's testifying. Yesterday and today the plaintiffs' attorney would ask a question then play parts of the deposition to catch Gongaware in contradiction. At one point, a portion of Gongaware's deposition was played in which he discussed a meeting at Michael's house with Conrad Murray. In his deposition, Paul Gongaware said the meeting "was about Dr. Murray and engaging him"; Gongaware later changed testimony to state "him" meant MJ. That change was read to the jury, leading attorney Brian Panish to question Gongaware about what he meant by the word "engage". "Here I think we were talking about making sure Michael Jackson was engaged and focused", Gongaware said. He told the jury he was concerned about getting Michael involved and focused, engaged mentally. "I believe that was Kenny's concern, that he wanted him to be focused," Gongaware explained. "Michael had gone before without rehearsing", Gongaware recalled. "When he got to London, he was going to be sensational." Gongaware said he thought at the meeting they discussed Jackson's nutrition, not his health (i.e. sleep issues.) Panish asked Gongaware about another meeting at Jackson's house in which Michael showed up late after a visit to Dr. Arnold Klein. "I didn't know what he was under the influence of, but he was a little bit off", Gongaware said of the meeting adding that he didn't know what kind of drugs Dr. Klein was giving Michael Panish then asked Gongaware whether he was involved in getting Jackson a nutritionist. Lots of back-and-forth on this issue. Panish showed emails in which Gongaware emailed others at AEG telling them Jackson needed a nutritionist and physical therapist. "Obviously I was looking for a nutritionist for him, but I wasn't involved in his nutrition," Gongaware said. Panish played Gongaware's deposition where he said he was not involved in finding a nutritional person. Gongaware explained he believes nutritional person and nutritionist were not necessarily the same. On June 15, 2009, Gongaware sent an email to Ortega in response to request for nutritionist and physical therapist for Michael . Email: We're on it. AEG owns major sports teams in this market so we think we can find the right people quickly. Kenny responded: Super.Not a minute too soon. Let's turn this guy around! Panish then asked Gongaware about a friend of AEG CEO Randy Phillips who was going to work with Jackson. Gongaware said he didn't know whether this friend of Phillips was a nutrition specialist. He told Panish he'd have to ask Randy Phillips. Gongaware testified he remembers someone named David Laughner working with Michael. Panish pointed out Laughner is Randy Phillips' friend. "I don't know if he was a nutritionist, it was someone in charge of making Michael eat," Gongaware explained. Gongaware: "He's a guy who's dealt with artists quite a bit"Gongaware said he doesn't know what Laughner did, but he's seen him working with JLo and Enrique Iglesias. Gongaware didn't know why MJ would need a nutritionist when he had a doctor hired. "Kenny asked for it," Gongaware explained. Gongaware said he told Dr. Murray he wanted him to have everything he needed. He said Michael Jackson had always been thin Gongaware said he didn't attend rehearsals frequently. "I was at the rehearsal facility at all the times but I wasn't in the arena much.""We were always concerned about Michael's health and well being," Gongaware explained, saying he was responding to Kenny Ortega's requests. Gongaware said Kenny Ortega was responsible for keeping an eye on everything, including Michael and his health. Gongaware was then asked whether there was anyone responsible for handling AEG's interests at rehearsals. Gongaware responded "Yes, that was Kenny Ortega" Panish: "Do you think Ortega was overreacting?"Talking about the email Gongaware wrote saying he wanted to remind him (Dr. Murray) that it's AEG, not Michael, who's paying his salary. In his deposition, Gongaware said he didn't know what he meant to say in the email. Gongaware testified he spent some of the time himself looking at this email, putting it in context with the rest of the material he had. Panish: "After meeting with your lawyers and talking about an hour or two about this email, did you refresh your memory of what you meant?"Panish played for jurors a section of Gongaware's deposition, recorded in December, in which Jackson lawyer Kevin Boyle questioned him about what he meant when he wrote to Ortega: "We want to remind him that it is AEG, not Michael, who is paying his salary." Boyle: "Based on the assumptions that AEG is your company and Michael is Michael Jackson, do you have an understanding of what that means?"After Gongaware began recalling in court what he meant in the e-mail, Panish suggested it may be a case of "repressed memories" where "someone doesn't remember something for three or four years." "You didn't have any psychotherapy to remember what you wrote here?" Panish asked. "You didn't like get put to sleep? (Judge Yvette Palazuelos injected: "Hypnotized?") to see if you remembered this?Panish went through every word of the email, which was to Kenny Ortega and Frank DiLeo: Frank and I have discussed it already and have requested a face-to-face meeting with the doctor, hopefully Monday. We want to remind him that it is AEG, not Michael, who's paying his salary. We want him to understand what's expected of him. He's been dodging Frank so far Panish: "You're referring to Dr. Murray and what's expected of Dr. Murray, right?"Panish asked if he thought Dr. Murray knew what his responsibility was, so why the need to remind him what was expected of him? "This thing was shorthand between me, Kenny and Frank. I was going through hundreds of emails a day. If I knew lawyers four years later were picking everything apart, I may have been more careful choosing my words", Gongaware testified.He claimed he was referring to Kenny's email regarding nutritionist, physical therapist. "I certainly feel Dr. Murray should be competent to do that (be a nutritionist). He's a doctor!" Gongaware testified.Panish asked why Gongaware thought they needed a nutritionist when they had a doctor hired. "Kenny asked for one," he responded "If Michael signed the contract and if Michael would've instructed us to pay him, we would've pay him," Gongaware said about Dr. Murray "Frank and I have discussed it already and have requested a face-to-face meeting with the doctor, hopefully MondayAEG Live co-CEO Paul Gongaware wrote on June 14, 2009, 11 days before Murray administered a fatal dose propofol "Michael didn't like to rehearse, it didn't surprise me," Gongaware expressed, saying it was known that Michael didn't go to rehearsals. But when the lights went up, Jackson was "on," he stated. Email on 5/5/09 from Gongaware to Carla Garcia: Pray for me. This is a nightmare. Not coincidentally, I have them now every night. Cold sweats too. Life used to be so much fun...It was not an admission that he was concerned about Jackson's ability to do the show, he said. "It was just playing around, joking," with AEG President Tim Leiweke's assistant, Carla Garcia, he testified. "Carla is an absolute babe and I was just chatting her up. I don't have cold sweats, I don't have nightmares, I sleep great!" Gongaware said. Panish asked him if he was lying in the email, "white lie?" Response from Phillips on Jun 20: Bugzee, I know because I just got Kenny's message on my voicemail.What did he do when he got there and what happened between him and KO? I have a meeting with Michael tomorrow morningFrom Hougdahl (Bugzee)to Phillips, cc'd Gongaware: MJ came out and watched all the pyro demonstrations and endorsed the all the effects then went into his room and asked Kenny "you aren't going to kill the artist, are you?" We assumed this was reference to pyro, but Kenny said he was shaking and couldn't hold his knife and fork. Kenny had to cut his food for him before he could eat, and then had to use his fingers. I don't know how much embellishment there is to this, but (Kenny) said repeatedly that Michael was in no shape to go on stage. He kept going on and on how no one was taking responsibility for "getting him ready". We might be getting beyond ... damage control, here"I didn't worry about, it sounded like he was sick and they were going to talk about it next morning," Gongaware explained Phillips replied: Tim and I are going to see him tomorrow, however, I am not sure what the problem is. Chemical or physiological?Gongaware said he was at a family wedding and wasn't really paying attention to this. This was 1st time he heard something was wrong with Michael Gongaware responds: Take the doctor with you. Why wasn't he there last night?"Yes, if he (MJ) was sick, why wasn't he (the doctor) there?" Gongaware said he meant in the email Phillips responded and added Tim Leiweke in the chain: He is not a psychiatrist so I'm not sure how effective he can be at this point. Obviously, getting him there is not the issue. It is much deeper."I think Randy is stating his opinion," Gongaware said. Panish asked if Gongaware inquired what Phillips meant by "the issue... It's much deeper." Gongaware: "Well, there was going to be a meeting that day to discuss it"Response from Hougdahl to Phillips, about needing trainetherapist: I've watched him deteriorate in front of my eyes over the last 8 weeks. He was able to do multiple 360 spins back in April. He'd fall on his ass if he tried it now"There was a meeting on June 20th. I wasn't there, I was back East," Gongaware recalled. Email from Phillips (6/20/09): Unfortunately, we are running out of time. That's my biggest fear"He was afraid of that, I wasn't," Gongaware said. Gongaware said he didn't agree with Phillips' assessment, "He may have said that, but I didn't agree with that" Panish questioned Gongaware about whether the company put too much emphasis on the showbiz maxim, "The show must go on." Gongaware denied that was the case. He told the jury that he was concerned about Jackson's health, but that he thought This Is It tour director Kenny Ortega may have been overstating concerns about the singer's wellbeing. Gongaware agreed that in this business, the show must go on Gongaware testified he didn't know when Dr. Murray's contract was to begin. "That contract was for London and the shows for London, I believe," Gongaware said. Email on 6/20/09 from Phillips to LeiwekeComm and "Kazoodi"(private email address that belongs to Gongaware): This guy is really starting to concern me. Read his email and my response. Dr. Murray and I are meeting with Michael at 4pm today at The Forum.Gongaware testified that he wasn't sure who Phillips was referring to, and his boss may have been expressing concerns about Jackson or Murray. The artist's health is paramount. Without the artist, there's no show. The artist is the most important thing," Gongaware testified Email on 6/19/09 from Phillips to Leiweke: We have a real problem hereThere was a meeting that was going to happen the next day, Gongaware said, and he waited to see what would come out of it Email on 6/19/09 from Leiweke to Phillips: Let's set up a time for you and I to meet with him. I want Kenny in the meeting as wellOrtega wrote back: I will do whatever I can to be of help with this situation. My concern is now that we've brought the Doctor into the fold played the tough love .He appeared quite weak and fatigued this evening. He had a terrible case of the chills, was trembling, rambling and obsessing. Everything in me says he should be psychologically evaluated. If we have any chance at all to get him back in the light it's going to take a strong therapist to help him through this as well as immediate physical nurturing. I was told by our choreographer during the artists costume fitting w/ his designer tonight they noticed he's lost more weight.: As far as I can tell, there's no 1 taking responsibility (caring) for him on a daily basis. Where was his assistant tonight? Tonight I was feeding him wrapping him in blankets to warm his chill, massaging his feet to calm him and calling his doctor. There were four security guards outside his door, but no one offering him a cup of hot tea. Finally, it's important for everyone to know I believe he really wants this. It would shatter him break his heart if we pulled plug. He's terribly frightened it's all going to go away. He asked me repeatedly tonight if i was going to leave him. He was practically begging for my confidence. It broke my heart. He was like a lost boy. There still may be a chance he can rise to the occasion if we get him the help he needs.Phillips responded: Kenny: I will call you when I figure this out,we have a person like that, Brigitte, who's in London advancing his stay. We will bring her back asap and Frank, too, however, I'm stymied on who to bring in as a therapist and how they can get through to him in such a short timeGongaware said Brigitte is a lawyer who was in charge of accommodations for MJ in London Gongaware: "He was obviously concerned""This all happened prior to the meeting, and I was waiting to understand what the situation was," Gongaware explained "I think they are special," Gongaware said about artists. Email response from Philips to Kenny urging him, and everyone else, not to become amateur psychiatrists or physicians on 6/20/09: You cannot imagine the harm and ramifications of stopping this show now Panish: "Can you name a single person at AEG who checked Dr. Murray out?"Gongaware: "I never checked any doctor that I used. I just go by recommendation, never checked anyone's financial situation" Gongaware said everyone thought Michael had all the money in the world, and it was not unusual for him to see people asking for a lot of money. Gongaware said he never heard before today anything about Dr. Murray's financial conditions Panish: "He knew Michael's health was declining based on what the doctor told him, right?"Email on 6/22/09 from Hougdahl (Production Manager, known as Bugzee) to Gongaware: Further to the earlier email Let's keep our two docu people out of here today, unless they stay in the dressing room area only. Tomorrow is another story... Panish: "Sir, Michael was sick this time, wasn't he?"Panish then asked Gongaware about his attendance at Jackson's rehearsals. Gongaware said he didn't attend many. He watched Jackson perform "Thriller" two days before he died, but that was the only time he spent at that rehearsal. "He appeared to me to be fully engaged. I recall seeing "Thriller" because it was the first time they were rehearsing with the costume and I wanted to see it," Gongaware saidCourt Transcript 2017 - Lifetime original movie, Michael Jackson: Searching For Neverland is featured in TV Weekly magazine, with Navi on the cover https://preview.redd.it/xr20szbwhl2b1.jpg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca89f816ca5d8ca75a97e23528767b4036711be3 |
2023.05.28 20:49 Mortimer_Whimsiwick World Hunger Games: 17th Hunger Games: Finale + Aftermath
Day 2 came to a close along with the betting circuits. As by law, the betting circuits closed the moment ten tributes remained which was brought about by Carnelia’s death. Artemis and Luther revealed the betting statistics. The top three tributes from top to bottom were Mortimer, Cat, and Wolvthorne. Artemis claimed to have taken a gamble and betted on Cat. Luther stuck with his Mortimer vote, uttering his signature catchphrase, “Always vote for the best story”. Their attention was diverted to the victor’s lounge where Candace Freeman (victor of the 4th Hunger Games) drunkenly accused Gill of cheating and then devolving into a rant about how unfair it was that District 1 hadn’t done well in recent years. Bacchus Johnson (victor of the 9th Hunger Games) blamed their district mayor Baron Moriarty for his materialistic viewpoints and encouragement for overindulgence spoiling the district youth rotten. Fabeline Granger (victor of the 15th Hunger Games) chalked it up to Candace being a privileged drama queen before making a snide remark towards her husband, Capital superstar Paris Dinkley. Candace broke a bottle over her head in retaliation. Silas MacIntyre (victor of the 7th Hunger Games) wrapped Candace in a bear hug and threw her out of the room. Fabeline was taken to the infirmary, where she was treated for a gash on her head, receiving four stitches. Back in the commentator’s booth, Artemis was so far deep in the juicy drama that she missed the arena’s great reveal.
After a light breakfast, Mortimer and Cat decided they were ready to push through the brush. They were still feeling woozy from the powerful smell but felt the need to persevere. Cat took the lead and used her sword to cut through the foliage. Mortimer kept the rear and scanned the lake, searching for any approaching tributes. After about ten minutes, Cat cut through the last bush and was mystified by what lay ahead. Mortimer caught up and turned to see the arena’s hidden surprise.
It was a derelict pirate ship nestled on a mound of sand. The ship appeared abandoned and worn down, the cameras spotting holes in the hull. It was also without sails, leaving naked wooden poles. Cat wondered why this would be such a big deal, saying the place looked unsafe. Mortimer agreed and guessed it wasn’t for floating, using the holes and lack of sails as proof. Cat suggested they check it out anyway, guessing this was where the final showdown will take place. He agreed and the two made their way up.
Now that the secret location was found, the gamemakers made preparations for the finale. The alligators were called back, but not soon enough for Peggy (8), who was ripped to shreds and cannon sounding as Mortimer and Cat climbed the ship’s ladder. Head Gamemaker Grimstone’s voice rang throughout the arena. He congratulated the remaining six tributes and instructed them to make their way across the lake for the final showdown. Suddenly, large stones rose from the lake’s depths, all lining up to create a path towards the ship. For those farthest away, a large blue light emanated above the ship. All the remaining tributes rushed towards the ship as fast as they could. Jassy (12) was the first to make it across the lake despite falling off the stone path three times. Andrei (2) and Wolvthorne (7) were both minutes behind her and after grabbing their supplies proceeded onto the stone path. Wolvthorne was following behind a disoriented Andrei and took this opportunity to lodge his axe into his back, fracturing his spine. Andrei roared in pain and anger, but his cries were silenced when he was thrown into the lake. His injury prevented him from staying afloat and his cannon sounded three minutes later. Horace (10) was the last to make it across, feeling weak from the smell.
Mortimer and Cat were already on the poop deck when the announcement happened. They were elated to discover the sulphur smell to not be present anymore and tore off their masks. They hastily surveyed the deck, looking for a hiding place or any sort of useful tool. Cat realized that the entrances into the bowels of the ship were closed off, leaving them stranded out in the open on the deck. Mortimer considered their options and surrendered to their only option: making a stand. The two brandished their weapons and waited by the ladder, waiting for anyone to climb up.
Jassy noticed this and circled around to the other side and found another ladder. Wolvthorne followed suit. Jassy crept up onto the deck and spotted Mortimer and Cat staring down the ship. She notched her last arrow into her bow and aimed carefully. Her accuracy was slightly off when she released, and the arrow landed in Mortimer’s left bicep. He grunted in pain, causing him to drop his trident off the side of the ship. The surprised Cat turned to see Jassy standing there shell shocked over her failed assassination attempt. Cat chased after her around the deck, attempting to swipe at her with her sword. While the two were distracted, Wolvthorne pulled himself up and narrowed his sights on Mortimer. Weaponless, Mortimer nevertheless stood his ground and faced him. Wolvthorne told him he would pay for killing his partner, but he scoffed and reminded him there could only be one winner. An enraged Wolvthorne charged with axe in hand. Mortimer dodged his attack and began to run across the deck. Wolvthorne continued in hot pursuit, with Mortimer continuously evading his attacks. This became a hilarious game of cat and mouse, Artemis flinching every time Wolvthorne’s axe was within an inch of Mortimer’s head.
Meanwhile, Horace (10) finally emerged and noticed the separate fights going on. He decided to go after the girls, seeing the two men as a greater threat. Cat chased Jassy up to the steering wheel and managed to corner her. Jassy begged for her life, even offering to help defeat Wolvthorne. Cat remained unfazed and thrust her sword into her chest, sounding her cannon seconds later. Horace used the distraction to tackle Cat to the ground. He held her down with all his might and tried to wretch the sword out of her hand. She bit down on his hand so hard that blood began to pool. The crowds in Maximus Square were surprised by the power of her jaw. Cat ripped a flap of skin clean off Horace’s hand, drops of blood decorating her face. She regained possession of her sword and swung it back behind her. The blade lodged itself into the side of his head, sounding his cannon instantly. Out of breath, she limped to the railing and saw Mortimer was in trouble. She ran down the stairs to help her ally.
Despite the harrowing battle Cat was enduring, most of the attention was on the game of cat and mouse between Mortimer and Wolvthorne. At the same time Cat was struggling to escape Horace’s weight, one of Wolvthorne’s strikes demolished a wooden support beam that held a small above deck which would’ve led to the captain’s quarters. A particularly large cornerstone of the deck above fell onto Wolvthorne’s head, causing him to stumble back and collide with the ship’s edge. Mortimer used this opportunity to rush him and try pushing him off. Wolvthorne was much bigger than him and barely budged. However, Mortimer was successful in making him drop his axe. Wolvthorne headbutted Mortimer and shoved him to the ground. He attempted to choke him, but Mortimer twisted himself around and wrapped his legs around Wolvthorne’s torso. He used his elbows to push himself over his opponent’s back and pulled on his right arm all the while still keeping his leg grip. Wolvthorne struggled for a moment before wrestling himself free. He put him in a chokehold and slammed his face into the ground. He squeezed as hard as he could while Mortimer tried and failed to struggle. Many viewers in Maximus Square were cheering for Mortimer to fight back, mostly due to their betting money going towards him.
The prayers of the Buccaneers were answered when a sword entered Wolvthorne’s back and exited out his abdomen. Wolvthorne’s grip softened, enabling Mortimer to squeeze himself free. Wolvthorne turned to see Cat standing there with a determined look on her face. With the last bit of his strength, he lunged at Cat and pulled her into the blade protruding from his stomach. Cat let out a gasp as the blade entered her body. The Capital was shocked by the sudden turn of events but not as horrified as Mortimer. He grabbed the handle and looked at Cat. She looked upon him in sorrow and nodded her head. Mortimer unsheathed the sword from both bodies and thrust the blade into Wolvthorne’s brain, sounding his cannon instantly.
Mortimer thanked her for being his ally and a true friend. He quickly surveyed the skies. He leaned forward, brought his mouth to Cat’s ear, and began to whisper. The arena’s concealed microphones couldn’t decipher anything. Cat’s final words were, “Don’t worry. Patient confidentiality.” Her cannon sounded seconds later. Head Gamemaker Grimstone declared Mortimer Beckett of District 4 the victor of the 17th Hunger Games. Mortimer felt immense relief and let himself crumple onto the floor. The retrieval team arrived to pick him up and he came with them without a fight.
Mortimer was airlifted to the Maximus Hospital for medical examination. The arrow wound was stitched together and the cut over his eye received treatment, leaving two tic marks at the 2 o’clock and 8 o’clock positions. He was released two days later and was instructed to take it easy. Minerva escorted him back to the apartment, feeling happy he won. They reunited with Gill Henderson, who congratulated him for his win. While Mortimer admitted he felt grateful to have survived, he couldn’t stop thinking about Cat and how she was more deserving. Gill assured him that she sacrificed herself because she believed in him. He remained unconvinced, so Gill took him on a field trip to the Capital’s Oakley Museum of Art, recently erected by Silas MacIntyre (victor of the 7th Hunger Games) and Candace Freeman (victor of the 4th Hunger Games). It was there he met Phoebe Bentley and the two spent hours at the museum talking. Their intimate conversation helped Mortimer significantly, cheering him up enough to meet Gill at the Dipping Downer’s bar to drink with Bacchus Johnson (victor of the 9th Hunger Games) and Quarry Grounds (victor of the 12th Hunger Games).
The victor’s interview arrived and gathered a decent turnaround. Artemis and Luther wore matching outfits, reminiscent of the clothes swamp tour guides wore before the Dark Days. During the opening monologue, Luther expressed how pleased he was of the recent games giving them powerful personal journeys with the victors. Artemis said that while he was no Ashley Chen (victor of the 13th Hunger Games) or Sherpa Kapoor (victor of the 16th Hunger Games), she greatly enjoyed Mortimer’s performance. Mortimer entered the stage sporting something completely unexpected. His now famous tattoo was visible, but the suit he wore was intricately cut around it. The top half was sky blue while the bottom half was dark blue with wavy patterns making it look almost like the ocean. The funny part was him wearing a cap with a small cartoonish gator's head attached to the front.
Artemis and Luther started off by marveling at his outfit, calling it a revolution in fashion design. Mortimer attributed this to Minerva, the same person who polished the tattoo for the pre games interview. Artemis asked if he would get new tattoos, him saying he is planning on it. The first half of the interview was casual, covering topics of tattoo suggestions, his time at the bar with Bacchus and Quarry, and Minerva’s hard work on his outfit. The games eventually came up in conversation with Mortimer describing it “as if walking in a wet blanket that was also in the sewer”. Luther asked about the alligators and what motivated him to wrestle them. Mortimer tensed up but answered that he was trying to save Pearl. Artemis asked how much of a role she played in his victory. Mortimer credited her for getting the ball rolling in helping him realise to not give up on humanity. He saw her as the little sister he never had and wished he would have thanked her. Luther noted that since she got the ball rolling, it was someone else who broke through to him. Mortimer realised he was talking about Cat. He expressed how he felt she deserved to win more than him and how he chose to not let her sacrifice go to waste. Artemis admitted that while she betted on Cat, she was glad he made it, calling her Golden Victor material. Mortimer appreciated her sentiment. Luther reminded them that he was certainly a Golden Victor, citing his impressive chemistry skills and literally wrestling with an alligator. Him and Artemis dismissed Mortimer from the stage to rapturous applause, calling him “Captain Gator”, which became his victor’s nickname.
Mortimer was invited to some parties in the Capital. Gill accompanied him and stole the spotlight numerous times when requested to do shanties. Mortimer would dance along always with a drink in hand. He returned to District 4 and received a warm welcome from its citizens. He used the stage to openly apologise to those he turned away and for being a hoodlum. His reunion with his girlfriend Meridia was passionate and heartwarming, but not as much as the one with his father. Two weeks later, his request for Edward Beckett to undergo back surgery at the Capital was improved with a letter of recommendation personally penned by Gill. Edward’s damaged spinal disc was replaced with a flexible prosthetic. However, the surgery was a minimal success, removing some of the pain and enabling him to walk only small increments with assistance from a cane. Mortimer felt dejected over this but was humbled when several townsfolk pitched in to craft a wheelchair for him. Mortimer and his father partnered with Gill to start a rehabilitation center to help the injured and disabled workers of District 4 and the Island Bases. He further expanded his knowledge of chemistry and medicine, becoming District 4’s chief doctor. He crafted pain medication from the SHC compound delivered to him by Phoebe Bentley and prescribed them to various members of the district.
Mortimer made right by his promise and mended his relationships. He and Pearl’s father Alexander Riverstone crafted new nonalcoholic drinks, a certain cherry lime drink inspiring the Johnson’s Jazzy Juices future classic: the Beach Blanket. He also patched things up with Meridia’s father, the two often going on fishing trips together. His reputation only grew and grew until he was elected mayor of District 4 by the 31st Hunger Games. Mortimer grew closer to Gill and mentored alongside him until the next D4 victor was crowned. He became good friends with Phoebe Bentley as well, supplying him with chemistry textbooks and new batches of the warmweed’s SHC compound. In honor of Cat, he had Meridia etch a sea green ribbon tattoo, which represented mental health awareness, around the treasure chest. He was also friends with Corpse Beckford (victor of the 10th Hunger Games) who gifted him and Meridia tattoo inks for his birthday. Quarry Grounds (victor of the 12th Hunger Games) was also in Mortimer's good graces after he gifted Edward a special redwood cane with a beautiful marble topper.
Things were complicated when it came to his relationship with Meridia. Initially, they grew much closer, her giving him sea serpent tattoos on both his arms in addition to the ribbon. Unfortunately, five months before next year’s game, the two broke off the relationship. However, after the tumultuous 18th Hunger Games, the two reconciled and married a week before the reaping of the 19th Hunger Games. The two had five kids, naming his first daughter Katherine, after his deceased ally.
Mortimer was one of the four Golden Victors to disappear alongside Vixen Furtherson (victor of the 14th Hunger Games) after Savannah Pickett (victor of the 6th Hunger Games)’s death before the 41st Hunger Games. Days after the 47th Hunger Games, the underground terrorist group The Phoenix Fighters leaked two dossiers days apart. The first revealing reports of many accidents taking place on the military island bases. It also highlighted some cases of peacekeepers overworking and in some cases beating workers. The same dossier also revealed how Edward Beckett’s ‘accident’ was actually caused by the Faroe Island Base’s assistant supervisor Plutarch Manson. Manson was found dead in his Capital apartment three days later, his throat slit.
The second dossier revealed evidence of the reapings being tampered with over the years, whether it’d be names added, taken out, or scrubbed. The second dossier instigated some chaos in the districts, which was hastily subdued by the peacekeepers. Mortimer was never seen again, though there was heavy speculation regarding his possible membership in The Phoenix Fighters. On occasion, Capital navy ships and submarines would be attacked and looted under mysterious circumstances. One survivor named Lemuel Stanton blamed everything on a ‘ghost submarine’, one no one could see on the radar nor in person. A fair pocket of Capital analysts suspected Mortimer but lack of evidence kept his bounty from increasing.
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After a light breakfast, Mortimer and Cat decided they were ready to push through the brush. They were still feeling woozy from the powerful smell but felt the need to persevere. Cat took the lead and used her sword to cut through the foliage. Mortimer kept the rear and scanned the lake, searching for any approaching tributes. After about ten minutes, Cat cut through the last bush and was mystified by what lay ahead. Mortimer caught up and turned to see the arena’s hidden surprise.
It was a derelict pirate ship nestled on a mound of sand. The ship appeared abandoned and worn down, the cameras spotting holes in the hull. It was also without sails, leaving naked wooden poles. Cat wondered why this would be such a big deal, saying the place looked unsafe. Mortimer agreed and guessed it wasn’t for floating, using the holes and lack of sails as proof. Cat suggested they check it out anyway, guessing this was where the final showdown will take place. He agreed and the two made their way up.
Now that the secret location was found, the gamemakers made preparations for the finale. The alligators were called back, but not soon enough for Peggy (8), who was ripped to shreds and cannon sounding as Mortimer and Cat climbed the ship’s ladder. Head Gamemaker Grimstone’s voice rang throughout the arena. He congratulated the remaining six tributes and instructed them to make their way across the lake for the final showdown. Suddenly, large stones rose from the lake’s depths, all lining up to create a path towards the ship. For those farthest away, a large blue light emanated above the ship. All the remaining tributes rushed towards the ship as fast as they could. Jassy (12) was the first to make it across the lake despite falling off the stone path three times. Andrei (2) and Wolvthorne (7) were both minutes behind her and after grabbing their supplies proceeded onto the stone path. Wolvthorne was following behind a disoriented Andrei and took this opportunity to lodge his axe into his back, fracturing his spine. Andrei roared in pain and anger, but his cries were silenced when he was thrown into the lake. His injury prevented him from staying afloat and his cannon sounded three minutes later. Horace (10) was the last to make it across, feeling weak from the smell.
Mortimer and Cat were already on the poop deck when the announcement happened. They were elated to discover the sulphur smell to not be present anymore and tore off their masks. They hastily surveyed the deck, looking for a hiding place or any sort of useful tool. Cat realized that the entrances into the bowels of the ship were closed off, leaving them stranded out in the open on the deck. Mortimer considered their options and surrendered to their only option: making a stand. The two brandished their weapons and waited by the ladder, waiting for anyone to climb up.
Jassy noticed this and circled around to the other side and found another ladder. Wolvthorne followed suit. Jassy crept up onto the deck and spotted Mortimer and Cat staring down the ship. She notched her last arrow into her bow and aimed carefully. Her accuracy was slightly off when she released, and the arrow landed in Mortimer’s left bicep. He grunted in pain, causing him to drop his trident off the side of the ship. The surprised Cat turned to see Jassy standing there shell shocked over her failed assassination attempt. Cat chased after her around the deck, attempting to swipe at her with her sword. While the two were distracted, Wolvthorne pulled himself up and narrowed his sights on Mortimer. Weaponless, Mortimer nevertheless stood his ground and faced him. Wolvthorne told him he would pay for killing his partner, but he scoffed and reminded him there could only be one winner. An enraged Wolvthorne charged with axe in hand. Mortimer dodged his attack and began to run across the deck. Wolvthorne continued in hot pursuit, with Mortimer continuously evading his attacks. This became a hilarious game of cat and mouse, Artemis flinching every time Wolvthorne’s axe was within an inch of Mortimer’s head.
Meanwhile, Horace (10) finally emerged and noticed the separate fights going on. He decided to go after the girls, seeing the two men as a greater threat. Cat chased Jassy up to the steering wheel and managed to corner her. Jassy begged for her life, even offering to help defeat Wolvthorne. Cat remained unfazed and thrust her sword into her chest, sounding her cannon seconds later. Horace used the distraction to tackle Cat to the ground. He held her down with all his might and tried to wretch the sword out of her hand. She bit down on his hand so hard that blood began to pool. The crowds in Maximus Square were surprised by the power of her jaw. Cat ripped a flap of skin clean off Horace’s hand, drops of blood decorating her face. She regained possession of her sword and swung it back behind her. The blade lodged itself into the side of his head, sounding his cannon instantly. Out of breath, she limped to the railing and saw Mortimer was in trouble. She ran down the stairs to help her ally.
Despite the harrowing battle Cat was enduring, most of the attention was on the game of cat and mouse between Mortimer and Wolvthorne. At the same time Cat was struggling to escape Horace’s weight, one of Wolvthorne’s strikes demolished a wooden support beam that held a small above deck which would’ve led to the captain’s quarters. A particularly large cornerstone of the deck above fell onto Wolvthorne’s head, causing him to stumble back and collide with the ship’s edge. Mortimer used this opportunity to rush him and try pushing him off. Wolvthorne was much bigger than him and barely budged. However, Mortimer was successful in making him drop his axe. Wolvthorne headbutted Mortimer and shoved him to the ground. He attempted to choke him, but Mortimer twisted himself around and wrapped his legs around Wolvthorne’s torso. He used his elbows to push himself over his opponent’s back and pulled on his right arm all the while still keeping his leg grip. Wolvthorne struggled for a moment before wrestling himself free. He put him in a chokehold and slammed his face into the ground. He squeezed as hard as he could while Mortimer tried and failed to struggle. Many viewers in Maximus Square were cheering for Mortimer to fight back, mostly due to their betting money going towards him.
The prayers of the Buccaneers were answered when a sword entered Wolvthorne’s back and exited out his abdomen. Wolvthorne’s grip softened, enabling Mortimer to squeeze himself free. Wolvthorne turned to see Cat standing there with a determined look on her face. With the last bit of his strength, he lunged at Cat and pulled her into the blade protruding from his stomach. Cat let out a gasp as the blade entered her body. The Capital was shocked by the sudden turn of events but not as horrified as Mortimer. He grabbed the handle and looked at Cat. She looked upon him in sorrow and nodded her head. Mortimer unsheathed the sword from both bodies and thrust the blade into Wolvthorne’s brain, sounding his cannon instantly.
Mortimer thanked her for being his ally and a true friend. He quickly surveyed the skies. He leaned forward, brought his mouth to Cat’s ear, and began to whisper. The arena’s concealed microphones couldn’t decipher anything. Cat’s final words were, “Don’t worry. Patient confidentiality.” Her cannon sounded seconds later. Head Gamemaker Grimstone declared Mortimer Beckett of District 4 the victor of the 17th Hunger Games. Mortimer felt immense relief and let himself crumple onto the floor. The retrieval team arrived to pick him up and he came with them without a fight.
Mortimer was airlifted to the Maximus Hospital for medical examination. The arrow wound was stitched together and the cut over his eye received treatment, leaving two tic marks at the 2 o’clock and 8 o’clock positions. He was released two days later and was instructed to take it easy. Minerva escorted him back to the apartment, feeling happy he won. They reunited with Gill Henderson, who congratulated him for his win. While Mortimer admitted he felt grateful to have survived, he couldn’t stop thinking about Cat and how she was more deserving. Gill assured him that she sacrificed herself because she believed in him. He remained unconvinced, so Gill took him on a field trip to the Capital’s Oakley Museum of Art, recently erected by Silas MacIntyre (victor of the 7th Hunger Games) and Candace Freeman (victor of the 4th Hunger Games). It was there he met Phoebe Bentley and the two spent hours at the museum talking. Their intimate conversation helped Mortimer significantly, cheering him up enough to meet Gill at the Dipping Downer’s bar to drink with Bacchus Johnson (victor of the 9th Hunger Games) and Quarry Grounds (victor of the 12th Hunger Games).
The victor’s interview arrived and gathered a decent turnaround. Artemis and Luther wore matching outfits, reminiscent of the clothes swamp tour guides wore before the Dark Days. During the opening monologue, Luther expressed how pleased he was of the recent games giving them powerful personal journeys with the victors. Artemis said that while he was no Ashley Chen (victor of the 13th Hunger Games) or Sherpa Kapoor (victor of the 16th Hunger Games), she greatly enjoyed Mortimer’s performance. Mortimer entered the stage sporting something completely unexpected. His now famous tattoo was visible, but the suit he wore was intricately cut around it. The top half was sky blue while the bottom half was dark blue with wavy patterns making it look almost like the ocean. The funny part was him wearing a cap with a small cartoonish gator's head attached to the front.
Artemis and Luther started off by marveling at his outfit, calling it a revolution in fashion design. Mortimer attributed this to Minerva, the same person who polished the tattoo for the pre games interview. Artemis asked if he would get new tattoos, him saying he is planning on it. The first half of the interview was casual, covering topics of tattoo suggestions, his time at the bar with Bacchus and Quarry, and Minerva’s hard work on his outfit. The games eventually came up in conversation with Mortimer describing it “as if walking in a wet blanket that was also in the sewer”. Luther asked about the alligators and what motivated him to wrestle them. Mortimer tensed up but answered that he was trying to save Pearl. Artemis asked how much of a role she played in his victory. Mortimer credited her for getting the ball rolling in helping him realise to not give up on humanity. He saw her as the little sister he never had and wished he would have thanked her. Luther noted that since she got the ball rolling, it was someone else who broke through to him. Mortimer realised he was talking about Cat. He expressed how he felt she deserved to win more than him and how he chose to not let her sacrifice go to waste. Artemis admitted that while she betted on Cat, she was glad he made it, calling her Golden Victor material. Mortimer appreciated her sentiment. Luther reminded them that he was certainly a Golden Victor, citing his impressive chemistry skills and literally wrestling with an alligator. Him and Artemis dismissed Mortimer from the stage to rapturous applause, calling him “Captain Gator”, which became his victor’s nickname.
Mortimer was invited to some parties in the Capital. Gill accompanied him and stole the spotlight numerous times when requested to do shanties. Mortimer would dance along always with a drink in hand. He returned to District 4 and received a warm welcome from its citizens. He used the stage to openly apologise to those he turned away and for being a hoodlum. His reunion with his girlfriend Meridia was passionate and heartwarming, but not as much as the one with his father. Two weeks later, his request for Edward Beckett to undergo back surgery at the Capital was improved with a letter of recommendation personally penned by Gill. Edward’s damaged spinal disc was replaced with a flexible prosthetic. However, the surgery was a minimal success, removing some of the pain and enabling him to walk only small increments with assistance from a cane. Mortimer felt dejected over this but was humbled when several townsfolk pitched in to craft a wheelchair for him. Mortimer and his father partnered with Gill to start a rehabilitation center to help the injured and disabled workers of District 4 and the Island Bases. He further expanded his knowledge of chemistry and medicine, becoming District 4’s chief doctor. He crafted pain medication from the SHC compound delivered to him by Phoebe Bentley and prescribed them to various members of the district.
Mortimer made right by his promise and mended his relationships. He and Pearl’s father Alexander Riverstone crafted new nonalcoholic drinks, a certain cherry lime drink inspiring the Johnson’s Jazzy Juices future classic: the Beach Blanket. He also patched things up with Meridia’s father, the two often going on fishing trips together. His reputation only grew and grew until he was elected mayor of District 4 by the 31st Hunger Games. Mortimer grew closer to Gill and mentored alongside him until the next D4 victor was crowned. He became good friends with Phoebe Bentley as well, supplying him with chemistry textbooks and new batches of the warmweed’s SHC compound. In honor of Cat, he had Meridia etch a sea green ribbon tattoo, which represented mental health awareness, around the treasure chest. He was also friends with Corpse Beckford (victor of the 10th Hunger Games) who gifted him and Meridia tattoo inks for his birthday. Quarry Grounds (victor of the 12th Hunger Games) was also in Mortimer's good graces after he gifted Edward a special redwood cane with a beautiful marble topper.
Things were complicated when it came to his relationship with Meridia. Initially, they grew much closer, her giving him sea serpent tattoos on both his arms in addition to the ribbon. Unfortunately, five months before next year’s game, the two broke off the relationship. However, after the tumultuous 18th Hunger Games, the two reconciled and married a week before the reaping of the 19th Hunger Games. The two had five kids, naming his first daughter Katherine, after his deceased ally.
Mortimer was one of the four Golden Victors to disappear alongside Vixen Furtherson (victor of the 14th Hunger Games) after Savannah Pickett (victor of the 6th Hunger Games)’s death before the 41st Hunger Games. Days after the 47th Hunger Games, the underground terrorist group The Phoenix Fighters leaked two dossiers days apart. The first revealing reports of many accidents taking place on the military island bases. It also highlighted some cases of peacekeepers overworking and in some cases beating workers. The same dossier also revealed how Edward Beckett’s ‘accident’ was actually caused by the Faroe Island Base’s assistant supervisor Plutarch Manson. Manson was found dead in his Capital apartment three days later, his throat slit.
The second dossier revealed evidence of the reapings being tampered with over the years, whether it’d be names added, taken out, or scrubbed. The second dossier instigated some chaos in the districts, which was hastily subdued by the peacekeepers. Mortimer was never seen again, though there was heavy speculation regarding his possible membership in The Phoenix Fighters. On occasion, Capital navy ships and submarines would be attacked and looted under mysterious circumstances. One survivor named Lemuel Stanton blamed everything on a ‘ghost submarine’, one no one could see on the radar nor in person. A fair pocket of Capital analysts suspected Mortimer but lack of evidence kept his bounty from increasing.
2023.05.28 13:03 FelicitySmoak_ On This Day In Michael Jackson HIStory - May 28th
 | 1971 - The Jackson 5 play at the Spectrum (now closed - 2009) in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. submitted by FelicitySmoak_ to MichaelJackson [link] [comments] 1988 - Michael's duet with Stevie Wonder , "Get It", from Stevie's album Characters peaks at #80 on the Hot 100 Chart while it was at #6 on the R&B chart 1989 - Michael was one of the few winners present at the Black Radio Exclusive awards show at the Universal Amphitheater in Los Angeles. He was honored as the "Triple Crown Winner for Outstanding Achievement in Pop, Rock and Soul." The elegantly laminated plaque has a black and gold edging, with purple printing on a faux-marble background, with a stylized photo image of Michael in his trademark black fedora. 1997 - His 2nd day in Poland starts with a stop at the presidential palace where Michael is received by the first lady. In his quest for a residence in Poland, he then visits the luxury Hotel Bristol. Price for the hotel ended up being too high. He then went to the Warsaw City Hall where he signed a “preliminary letter of intent” to develop a 'Michael Jackson’s Family Entertainment Park', in the Polish capital. https://preview.redd.it/l8aax0vbmf2b1.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2058be4c166fe6a5d16dc17142e7910fac7aad1f “My dream is to appeal to the child that lives in the heart of every man and woman on this planet and to create something in Poland that is so unique and so unusual that it cannot be experienced in any other place", he saidThe letter mentioned no price, but Jackson’s business manager, Tarak Ben Ammar, said in an interview that estimates of Jackson’s contribution range between $100 million and $300 million--modest sums by Western theme park standards. Poland would add an unknown amount. https://preview.redd.it/v3vax6femf2b1.jpg?width=636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe01e404092b93a587184acbb64809e82e8675fe https://preview.redd.it/svjneycfmf2b1.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9994183672ab7fe0eb2496407b91cafc3196922 " I would also like to tell a great truth, I have traveled all over the world six times and have been everywhere, but nowhere I liked it more than in Poland. A visit to Poland is the fulfillment of my childhood dreams...." He shops at the Kidiland toy store, reportedly in the amount of $670,000. He then goes to the children's hospital, with his arms loaded with gifts. https://preview.redd.it/kok5pazgmf2b1.jpg?width=639&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ebb70051f68409f937c0775426c55ff67f9009c https://preview.redd.it/ncl93ephmf2b1.jpg?width=594&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31621e03ff28ea84d04b050dcb0d9e0a1a403c49 Next he takes a helicopter to Lubiaz, in order to see Cistercian Abbey of Lubiaz, wich he also planned to purchase. Accompanied by Professor Marek Kwiatkowski, who guided him during his visit, Michael spends 45 minutes marveling at the Baroque architecture and the relics. He'll even try a little "heehee" in the middle of the Hall des Princes to test the acoustics! Michael, who wanted to settle in Poland, already saw himself owning this old building, despite the millions of dollars in restoration to be expected. https://preview.redd.it/ih1lgr0jmf2b1.jpg?width=389&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d38bf32bbf497853881a2ee5ee22587d7672d2b In the evening, he flies to Bremen, Germany where in three days he will begin the 2nd leg of his HIStory Tour. https://preview.redd.it/2ea4068kmf2b1.jpg?width=547&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cb5c1e7f75c3f9226c6c3fa9752b601cec7b5ca https://preview.redd.it/di920gqnmf2b1.jpg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72307480617262d831871b2f5b9e0d55a927a11a The plans to build the amusement park at a nearby military airport won approval from state officials in February 1998. Michael asks for sketches to be drawn up for the proposed theme parks, however, following the project’s approval and a huge hiatus, the army owning the airport does not agree to make it available for the park. Two grounds pointed out by the government will also be denied due to local protests. The Polish government abandons this project altogether and nothing will come out of it 2004 - Santa Barbara County Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville has ordered a trial-setting conference hearing today. Thomas Mesereau, Brian Oxman & Joe Jackson go to the courthouse; Michael's appearance isn't required. They argue for a reduction in his $3-million bail and seek an order to force prosecutors to move faster in sharing evidence. In accusing the prosecution of moving too slowly in giving the defense access to the evidence, as required by law, Mesereau said Michael's right to a fair trial was “jeopardized by the undue delay of discovery.” “The investigation of this case involves dozens of, if not over 100 witnesses, voluminous documents and expert examination on a variety of topics,” Jackson’s lawyers wrote. “The defense needs ample time to conduct follow-up witness interviews, locate and interview rebuttal witnesses and conduct its own forensic examinations, among other things.” Prosecutors have responded that they have turned over vast amounts of evidence already and are processing the information they have as quickly as possible. They also are strongly resisting an attempt by Mesereau to substantially reduce Jackson’s bail on grounds that it is much higher than the bail for other defendants facing similar charges. The bail-reduction request notes that Jackson has no prior record, arrests or convictions & that he has fully complied with all conditions of his release on bail, including attending court when ordered. “Mr. Jackson’s ties to this community are substantial,” the defense motion states. “The record reveals that Mr. Jackson is not a flight risk or a danger to the community. It is also apparent that Mr. Jackson intends to confront and vigorously defend rather than evade the allegations in this case.” Though Mesereau noted that Santa Barbara County’s bail schedule calls for bail of about $135,000 for the conspiracy and molestation charges in the grand jury complaint, prosecutors oppose the request on grounds that Jackson is a flight risk and that his wealth should be a factor in retaining high bail. Melville said early in the proceedings that he hoped a trial could begin before the end of this year, but legal experts and many criminal lawyers predicted that would be impossible. September 13 is set as the date for the trial to begin On another legal front, Janet Arvizo filed a claim against county child protection officials accusing them of moving too slowly in investigating leaks to the media that were helpful to Jackson’s defense. Before a psychiatrist who had examined Gavin told Santa Barbara County officials that the child had been molested, Welfare officials had interviewed the family after Living With Michael Jackson aired in early 2003 A memo written by authorities after Jackson’s arrest said the family had denied any sexual abuse. The memo was subsequently released on a website. Attorney Larry R. Feldman, representing the Arvizos, said he filed the claim, a necessary step before a lawsuit, to force county officials to speedily conclude their investigation to ensure that such a breach of confidentiality “will never occur again to another innocent child.” 2006 - Michael visited a Tokyo orphanage and told a group of 140 excited children "I love you" in Japanese. Michael's van was swarmed by 100+ fans as he arrived. Inside the Seibi Gakuen children's home, he watched a performance of traditional music and dance by the children before speaking briefly on stage. He later shook hands and signed autographs for the children. https://preview.redd.it/5lt7jdhqmf2b1.jpg?width=767&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d3a34ad3850b3460555a46dee82abca40bdbb9a Michael's children and Grace visited with the children on this tour of the Japanese orphanage. https://preview.redd.it/f9q2mu3tmf2b1.jpg?width=218&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3110b0dca7829696b7bbdb23ff3a6afc2557bbf "I look forward to seeing old friends and saying hello to my huge fan base in Japan who, like my other fans around the world, have for so many years consistently shown their love and support to me and my family."- MJ"Everyone couldn't believe such a big international star was visiting us," said Kiyoko Mito, headmistress of the Christian-run school. "The children only believed me after seeing the news yesterday that Michael Jackson was actually in Japan," she said 2009 - Having not heard from AEG regarding his salary, Conrad Murray sent another email to AEG & receives a response from Tim Wooley https://preview.redd.it/53qvtjwumf2b1.png?width=513&format=png&auto=webp&s=c048d2d7ca288f12a6a423237ced8234dba40b05 https://preview.redd.it/tsc7mzuvmf2b1.png?width=513&format=png&auto=webp&s=521de2b6de9a122d1ae45ba25caf39a5b7fb76a2 2013 - Jackson v AEG Trial Day 18 Katherine, Janet, Rebbie and Randy Jackson are in court. Only one of the siblings was allowed in the courtroom as they are potential witnesses. Janet accompanied Katherine during morning session while Rebbie was with her during the afternoon session. Paul Gongaware Testimony Jackson direct Paul Gongaware is one of the defendants in the case. He's an adverse witness called by the plaintiffs. Gongaware is Co-CEO of Concerts West, part of AEG Live. Gongaware has toured with Beach Boys, Led Zeppelin and is currently on tour with The Rolling Stones. He worked for Jerry Weintraub in the 80s He produced Prince's tour in 2004. He has not promoted/produced tours since. Gongaware has not talked to Prince after the tour Gongaware was a CPA licensed in NY and Washington. He said he believes he's still licensed but hasn't checked status since there's no need Gongaware testified that landing Jackson, whom he felt was the biggest artist of his era, was huge for AEG. In a 2008 email to AEG Live President and Chief Executive Randy Phillips, Gongaware described how the company should approach Jackson and his manager about a possible comeback tour: We need to start at the fundamentals. How we do it. The difference between [Live Nation] and us is huge. We are artist-based, they are Wall Street-driven. We are smart people. We are completely honest and transparent with everything we do. That's how [founder] Phil [Anschutz] wants itGongaware said he worked on an Elvis Presley tour. Panish asked if Elvis died of drug overdose, and Gongaware said "Yes". Gongaware replied to a condolences' email on July 5, 2009: I was working on the Elvis tour when he died, so I kind of knew what to expect. Still quite a shock "So you knew what to expect when Michael Jackson passed away, is that right, sir?", Brian Panish asked.Despite working as a tour promoter for 37 years -- including for Led Zeppelin, the Grateful Dead and many others -- Gongaware testified that the only artist he ever knew that was using drugs on tour was Rick James Panish asked about working for Jackson 5, Gongaware said had no interaction with Michael. Gongaware was a logistics manager on the Dangerous tour in 92-93. Panish said Michael made $100 million and donated it to charity. Gongaware said he didn't know When Gongaware met Jackson was with Colonel Parker (Elvis' manager) in Las Vegas. Michael had wanted to meet the Colonel Gongaware explained the difference between being tour manager and managing the tour. He talked about Michael's History tour Panish: "You knew that Michael had been to rehab during the dangerous tour?"Gongaware said he never knew MJ was involved with drugs until after the end of the Dangerous tour. Gongaware told LAPD he was aware of Jackson's previous use of pills/painkillers but did not want to get involved. Gongaware had known for years that Michael Jackson was taking painkillers but wasn't aware he was abusing them until MJ abruptly canceled his Dangerous world tour in the early 1990s to enter rehab. Gongaware said he knew of "two occasions" when Michael used painkillers between shows, but he claimed he didn't grasp the scope of the Michael's sickness until the taped 1993 announcement. "I would dispute knowing that he had a problem. I wasn't aware that there were problems", Gongaware said Gongaware said he knew a doctor was medicating Jackson during the Dangerous tour but did not find out why the tour was eventually cut short. "Didn't have time,I was just dealing with what was in front of me", he said Panish said Dr. Finkelstein testified under oath that Gongaware knew Michael had problems with painkillers before the Dangerous tour ended. Panish: "Do you dispute that?" (Finkelstein testimony)Gongaware said Dr. Finkelstein is his doctor and friend and that they talk off and on, but he doesn't know specifics of the doctor's deposition. Dr. Finkelstein said he gave MJ painkillers after the concert in Bangkok following Michael's scalp surgery. In Gongaware's video deposition: "Did you ever ask Dr. Finkelstein if he treated Michael during the Dangerous tour?"Another part of Gongaware's video depo: He said yes, he "occasionally treated Michael Jackson on the Dangerous tour" Panish: "Were you always honest with Michael?"Panish elicited contradictory testimony asking over and over about Gongaware's memory, how long he spent with lawyers to discuss testimony. On the Bad Tour MJ sold out 10 stadiums at 75,000 tickets per night. Panish: "That's a pretty big number?""No one knows how many shows we can get with Mikey," said Gongaware. Panish asked about name "Mikey" - he said he used it occasionally Email on 2/27/09 from Gongaware to Phillips: We are holding all of the risk, if Michael won't approve it we go without his approval.We let Mikey know just what it will cost him in terms of him making money, and then we go with or without him in London. We cannot be forced into stopping this, which Michael will try to do because he is lazy and constantly changes his mind to fit his immediate wants.Gongaware said his use "Mikey" was affectionate, not disparaging, and that the 'lazy' crack amounted to "poor choice of words" but one that accurately reflected how Michael "really didn't like to rehearse. He didn't like to do these kinds of things." "People were aware at this point there would be a press conference. Michael wouldn't show up at the conference, it'd cost money," Gongaware said. "It wasn't much risk at all, we hadn't spent money," Gongaware said about that point of the tour. This was prior to news conference. Gongaware said the situation in London, where they constantly referred to Michael as "Wacko Jacko" would impact marketability to sell tickets "He doesn't want to do this kind of things, but it was important to show Michael to the world if he wanted to do a show," Gongaware explained Jurors were shown several e-mails from Gongaware that Jackson lawyers suggested were evidence that AEG Live deliberately misled Jackson about how much money he would make from his comeback concerts and how many days he would have to rest between shows. Gongaware wrote to his boss, AEG Live President Randy Phillips, that they should present gross ticket sales numbers to Jackson, not the percentage of the net profits, during contract talks. "Maybe gross is a better number to throw around if we use numbers with Mikey listening"Panish talked about an email Gongaware sent to his secretary suggesting that she design a concert calendar for Jackson using light tan colors for show dates, while drawing attention to his rest days Don't want the shows to stand out too much when Michael looks at it.Less contrast between work and off. Maybe off days in a contrasting soft color. Put 'OFF' in each off day after July 8, as well. Figure it out so it looks like he's not working so much. Panish: "Did you want to change the color of the schedule to show Michael would not be working so hard?"Gongaware said it would be obvious when Michael would be working and not and he wasn't trying to trick him. Email on 3/25/09 from Phillips to Gongaware: "We need to pull the plug now. I will explain" Panish: "Mr. Phillips wanted to pull the plug on the show, right sir?""Kenny wanted the pull because the way she (Faye) handled situations," Gongaware explained. "She tried to control access to Michael and Kenny didn't like that" Karen Faye expressed strong opinion that the tour as dangerous and impractical for MJ. Panish asked about a chain of emails where Gongaware said the pulling the plug refers to Ms. Faye. "I believe he was," Gongaware repeated. In another March 25, 2009, email, Ortega wrote Gongaware that it was Faye's "strong opinion that this is dangerous and impractical with consideration to Michael's health and ability to perform.". "I thought he was in good shape at the press conference, I was there," Gongaware said at the deposition. Gongaware was at O2 arena and Phillips was with Michael. "Michael was late, Randy [Phillips] was saying I'm trying to get him going, I'm trying to get him going".As to Dr. Conrad Murray, Gongaware said there was 1 rehearsal he said hello to him. "It was basically a hello, on the floor at the Forum. Mikey asked me to retain him. I never hired him"Panish played an interview of Phillips to SkyTV after Michael died: "The guy is willing 2 leave his practice for large sum of money, so we hired him""I was told Michael wanted him as his doctor for the show," Gongaware said. Gongaware said Michael did not have any illness that he knew of. Gongaware: "He had taken a physical, he passed the physical and from what I understand there was nothing wrong with him. Maybe some hay fever"Gongaware said he received an email from Bob Taylor that everything was fine and that Michael had passed the physical. Gongaware said he never saw the results of the tests and doesn't know who saw them. Panish showed video deposition of Gongaware and a declaration he signed about a month before giving the deposition. They contradict themselves.At first, Gongaware insisted he did no negotiating with Murray, but, confronted with emails and his previous testimony, he changed his position and said, "The only thing I did with Dr. Murray was negotiate a price." Gongaware said that neither he nor anyone at the AEG investigated Murray's background or credentials Panish: "First you said how much did you want?"(to Dr. Murray)Gongaware said Dr. Murray had been Michael's personal doctor for the past 3 years. He said he did not know how many times MJ had seen the doctor. "Michael insisted on him, recommended him, and that was good enough for me, it was not for me to tell him who his doctor should be" Gongaware said "The fact that he had been Michael Jackson's personal physician for three years was good enough for me," Gongaware said. He said that Murray initially asked for $5 million to travel to London with Jackson and tend to him during the tour. "I just told him it wasn't going to happen," he said, recalling that Jackson then suggested offering him $150,000 a month. "Michael Jackson insisted on it and recommended him and it was not for me to tell him no," said Gongaware. "I wanted to provide what was necessary for him to do his job...He wanted a doctor and I wanted him to be healthy." Even after the offer of $150,000, Murray wasn't satisfied. "He started saying he wanted more and I said, 'The offer is coming directly from the artist," Gongaware said. Minutes later, he said Murray accepted. "Did that seem desperate to you?" asked Panish."We agreed on what the compensation was going to be, but there were a lot of issues to be resolved," Gongaware said. Gongaware said he recalled meeting with Dr. Murray where he was told the doctor was going to take care of the medical licensing in London. Gongaware and Timm Wooley are longtime friends. They are currently working on The Rolling Stones tour. Gongaware said he negotiated the price for Dr. Murray, but didn't negotiate the contract. Gongaware explained that he didn't do the negotiation, he would normally refer that to Wooley. Dr. Finkelstein and Gongaware have been friends for 35-plus years. Gongaware said he never offered Dr. Finkelstein the job of being MJ's doctor and said the doctor would be mistaken if he testified otherwise. Gongaware told the jury he called Dr. Finkelstein to ask what a fair price for a tour doctor would be. Doctor told him it was $10,000/week. As to Dr. Finkelstein wanting to be the tour doctor, Gongaware said he didn't recall specifically, but knew he wanted it."After his death we may have talked, but I don't recall specifics," Gongaware said. Gongaware said he sees Dr. Finkelstein a few times a year, but the subject of Michael never came up. Panish asked Gongaware if Dr. Finkelstein wanted to know if Michael was clean or using drugs. Gongaware said he didn't recall the conversation Panish asked: "You could have told Dr. Murray at any time that his services were no longer needed, couldn't you?"Gongaware told nanny, Grace Rwamba, that her services would not be needed anymore because AEG was cutting down on Michael's expenses "I never read the contract, I was there when Michael signed it, but didn't see what was in it," Gongaware said, "Doctor Murray was 100% Michael's cost" Based on the contract, Gongaware said 95% of the production expenses were Michael's responsibility, 5% AEG. Panish: "Who decided there was a need for a written contract with Dr. Murray?"Gongaware said that if the tour went forward, Dr. Murray would've made $1.5 million for 10 months. Ortega would've made almost that. Gongaware said although AEG never did a background check on Murray, in his view they had "checked out" the doctor according to their standard practices. "When we check out someone, we either rely on if we know the person or if they're known in the industry or if they're recommended by the artist & in this case, Dr. Murray was recommended by the artist, in fact, the artist insisted" Panish pressed Gongaware: "You did nothing to verify anything about Dr. Murray, isn't that true, sir?"Panish asked Gongaware if he approved budgets for April-July including Dr. Murray as production expense. He said he didn't know which budgets he approved. "It's my job to get that show on the road," Gongaware said. Gongaware said he had to know how much the production had spent at any given time, but didn't have time to read the budget. Panish: "Do you think you're good at your job, sir?"Gongaware testified that he didn't pay attention to the tour budgets that he approved, even though he was the tour manager.Paul Gongaware said he didn't read through the budgets, instead trusting that the tour accountant knew what he was talking about. Gongaware testified that Dr. Murray's salary, although included in the company's budget for several months, wasn't something he saw as an actual payment that would be made. "If there's a potential for cost we put it in our budget so there are no surprises later", he said. Gongaware often pleaded poor memory of events. He said he may have met with Jackson as many as 10 times, but could remember only two of the meetings and only one when Murray was present Gongaware said he doesn't remember how many meetings he attended at Carolwood house. He didn't recall a meeting where a vase was broken. "There was a meeting where he signed the contract," Gongaware recalled, saying there were more but he doesn't remember specifics. At the meeting in early June, Gongaware said he was present along with Kenny, Randy, Frank DiLeo, Dr. Murray and Michael. "The meeting was about making sure Michael and Dr. Murray had everything they needed to care for Michael," Gongaware explained. "Yes, we did talk about health-related issues. It was more a general meeting about what Dr. Murray would need", Gongaware said. He had told the police the topic of the meeting was Jackson's overall health ( i.e., diet, stamina and his weight) He remembered that Jackson arrived late from a doctor's appointment and had slurred speech. Gongaware said Michael Jackson "was a bit off". "He was just coming back from visiting Dr. Klein. I believe he was under the influence of something. That was the only time I saw him like that", Gongaware said. Jackson had missed a rehearsal and was thought to be dancing at home. However they discovered he was only watching video. Doctor Murray was receptive to their concerns and indicated he would take care of the situation Court Transcript |
2023.05.23 13:03 FelicitySmoak_ On This Day In Michael Jackson HIStory - May 23rd
 | 1972 - Jackson 5's 6th studio album Lookin’ Through The Windows is released by Motown. It would peak at #7 on Billboard & #3 on Billboard's Top Soul Albums chart submitted by FelicitySmoak_ to MichaelJackson [link] [comments] https://preview.redd.it/pg6fy3xiug1b1.jpg?width=226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac613da619a794cf4eb65eeee9d53d5a16e59f45 1988 - Michael kicks off the European leg of his Bad tour, performing the first of two nights at Stadio Flaminio in Rome, Italy. https://preview.redd.it/usxfpxlbvg1b1.jpg?width=649&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57490e2de0918269f9b0044a9676494da8ae452f https://preview.redd.it/5sykwr6dvg1b1.jpg?width=1048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbdd80a874bfd3ddf4594e5fbe5502be400bf4bf An after-show party is held at the 16th Century Palazzo Taverna where Michael makes a brief appearance greeted by guests Sophia Loren, Gina Lollobrigida, Federico Fellini & Georgio Armani https://preview.redd.it/lcw4uycevg1b1.jpg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06c5c4325a456032f3d00df21a9cfd02715501c8 https://preview.redd.it/kzazne7fvg1b1.jpg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f38e4fad387ff56a43198a13e661ceec1cd3a386 1989 - 2300 Jackson Street, the last album by The Jacksons is released by Epic. Michael only participates to the title song. It’s the last album ever recorded and released by The Jacksons 20 years after their first album on Motown https://preview.redd.it/6i1nl910fs2b1.jpg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fc4650bb652a7cd1a13ecb6173b916ada3d60b7 2005 - Day 58. Week 13 Michael goes to court with Katherine https://preview.redd.it/58g9z09gvg1b1.jpg?width=438&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a7ac4f8c4a9cbabb64551a54ec0c2c12589fce0 The defense received a huge boost as several witnesses painted the accusers mother as a greedy welfare cheat. Jurors heard emotional testimony from Gavin's aunt who said the mother, Janet Arvizo, was only interested in money for her then cancer-stricken son. The aunt, who is estranged from the Arvizo family, said she attempted to arrange a blood drive for her nephew. But she told jurors that Arvizo told her in a phone call that she didnt need my (expletive) blood and that instead she needed money. "I think I just hung up on her," the aunt recalled. An employee of the Los Angeles County Department of Public Social Services testified that she processed Arvizos welfare application in November 2001. She said that in the application, Arvizo stated she had no sources of income, assets or health insurance. However, just 10 days earlier the family had received a $152,000 settlement from a lawsuit filed against J.C. Penney. This followed an altercation with store security guards in 1998 - the guards had suspected them of shoplifting. The family claimed the guards battered them and eventually received a settlement which was split between the mother, father and all three children. The defense contends that the family has a history of using false allegations for financial gain. Mercy Dee Manrriquez stated that Janet Arvizo did not disclose any of the settlements on her welfare application and that a person who willingly excluded sources of income from the forms was guilty of fraud. "Would it be fraud to fail to disclose it at this point?", asked defense attorney Robert Sanger. "Yes it would be", Manriquez said. She also stated that all income should have been reported - including gifts and the $5,000 a month pay of her then boyfriend. Manrriquez further revealed that the mother swore under penalty of perjury that the family did not have any medical insurance. However, it was established in earlier testimony that the accuser's cancer treatments were in fact covered by his fathers employer. During her previous testimony, Arvizo invoked 5th Amendment protection against self-incrimination concerning her alleged welfare fraud. Next to testify was Mike Radakovich, an accountant who examined the bank accounts of the Arvizo family. He testified that a week after Janet Arvizo deposited her $32,000 portion of the J.C. Penny settlement, she withdrew $29,000 in a cashiers check made out to a car dealership. Then the paper trail mysteriously ended. "I never saw it going back into any account I looked at", Radakovich told jurors. He also stated that the Arvizo family was still collecting welfare payments in February & March 2003. At the same time, Jackson was spending several thousand dollars paying their expenses, including a private jet trip to Miami, an orthodontist appointment and a body wax for the mother. This is also the time period that the prosecution alleges the family was held captive by Jackson. Radakovich said that during this same time, two welfare payments of $769 were deposited into the bank account of Arvizos then boyfriend (now her husband). The boyfriend then paid the rent on the familys apartment. The defense also called Connie Keenan, editor of the Mid Valley News, to the stand. The editor testified that she ran a story about the medical plight of the family It was a story I didnt want to do but (the mother) played on some sympathies in the office so I assigned it, she testified. After the story ran, Arvizo wanted another one, Keenan said. "The mother wanted an additional story because she didnt make enough money from the original story - those are her words, not mine", she asserted. Keenan also told jurors that Arvizo wanted the article to say people could send her money. She said she had told Arvizo it would be unethical for people to send money to her house and urged her to set up a trust fund in her sons name. The editor said the account was eventually created and she ran the story on the front page. When defense attorney Mesereau asked why it was given such prominence, she said, "I think the story tugged at your heart strings. The face of the child was beautiful" Bringing the testimony to a close, Mesereau asked Keenan if the mother had called her personally and how long the conversation was. "Approximately one minute and 20 seconds", she retorted,"I didnt want to talk to her. I had already established the fact that I had been duped" Court Transcript 2006- In his first face-to-face interview since being acquitted the previous year, Michael talks briefly to showbiz reporter Fiona Cummins at the London offices of Harrods where he is visiting his close pal Mohamed Al Fayed. Fionna states that even though Michael has often given the impression that he prefers to keep people at arm's length, he greeted her like an old friend - "Smiling broadly he held out his hand, then threw his arms around me, giving me a whiff of his sweet smelling cologne" https://preview.redd.it/pugiighhvg1b1.jpg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2816f378c2c3dfad808f269dd31f4a334f5f657 2008 - Michael attends French stylist Christian Audigier's 50th birthday party at Petersen Automotive Museum in Hancock Park, Los Angeles, where he meets French singer Johnny Hallyday, Pamela Anderson & Britney Spears among others. https://preview.redd.it/mb3oo2divg1b1.jpg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f07a9180ca881a98601708211d9e94b1b8dd9394 https://preview.redd.it/4z58g53jvg1b1.jpg?width=380&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=099ea0ea888b5bf8e6c4657e519f7baaa7e6f6f7 2009 - Conrad Murray is in Houston, Texas having dinner with one of his mistresses 2013 - Jackson v AEG Trial day 16 Katherine Jackson and Rebbie Jackson are in court. Katherine becomes emotional when Panish asks about Michael being pressured, leaves court during lunch & does not come back for the afternoon session. Shawn Trell Testimony Jackson redirect Trell said when he met Michael Jackson in January of 2009, he didn't appear to be in pain. "I approximate the number of tours I've been involved in to be about 100," Trell testified. Trell said AEG has done other smaller productions as promoter and producer, only on two occasions for singers (Prince and MJ). "We promoted and produced Prince's 88 tour," Trell said.Panish said Prince's tour did not go well. "I wouldn't agree with that statement," Trell said. "I've never spoken to Prince, ever.Trell said AEG never hired physicians for tours before. Trell said he didn't know if AEG has a written contract with attorney Kathy Jorrie, who drafted Dr. Murray's contract. AEG did not deduct any payment from Jorrie for making mistakes in the contracts "I think Mr. Jackson asked us to engage his (Dr. Murray) services for him and his family on the tour," Trell explained. "We weren't aware of a conflict of interest," Trell said. Panish: "You, AEG Live, could've said you should hire your own doctor with your own money, right?" Panish: "Do you believe a threat to lose $150,000 month could exert pressure on anyone?"As to Dr. Murray's contract, Trell said it was prepared by AEG Live attorneys and never sent to any attorney representing MJ. "I believe there were three or four drafts," Trell explained.As to mistakes in contracts, Panish said there were a lot made in several contracts. He highlighted a few of them. Panish: "How many shows were in the tour?"Trell said he didn't have written approval from MJ for 50 shows. "But you wanted to get fully executed contracts right sir?" Panish inquiredTrell said he never reviewed any of the drafts of Dr. Murray's contract because Jorrie was handling the negotiation. Trell explained that before AEG were to sign the final version, though, he would've reviewed everything to make sure there were no mistakes. Panish asked if Trell knew Randy Phillips talked to Dr. Murray for 20 minutes on the phone. "I'm aware he had spoken with him, but didn't know the length of the calls," Trell said.Panish asked if MJ ever signed a release of authorization for Randy Phillips to speak with Dr. Murray. Trell said he was not aware of one. Panish asked if Trell thought it was ok for Phillips to speak with Dr. Murray alone. He said it depends on the substance of the conversation Panish: "About their physical conditions?"Trell said he doesn't think there's need for an authorization that Panish was talking about. Panish: "Are you familiar with HIPPA?"Panish referred to the email from Gongaware on June 14, 2009 saying AEG was the one paying Dr. Murray's salary and what's expected of him. Panish: "Is it a conflict of interest to tell a doctor you are paying how he needs to treat his patient?"As to independent contractors, Trell said the indemnity provision is always included in the agreements. Panish: "That's because it's your job to protect the financial interested of the company, rights?"Trell said he doesn't expect the CEO of a company to know everything within the company, as Phillips wrote that they 'checked everyone out'. Trell said the people whom AEG contracted are either known to them, to the artist or in the business. Trell said AEG had a management agreement with Dr. Tohme, a management agreement. "It was an agreement between us and Tohme regarding the service he would render on the tour," Trell said. "It was a fee for whatever services Michael wanted him to perform according to the agreement," Trell explained. Panish asked if Dr. Tohme was an employee of AEG. Trell: "He was not an employee"Panish pressed Trell for an answer, since he testified people working on the tour were either employees or independent contractors. "It's hard for me to describe, he was not an employee, and not independent contractor either," said Trell.Panish showed an email where attorney Kathy Jorrie expressed reservations about Dr. Tohme. Jorrie questioned if he was the "real McCoy", meaning the real deal, and recommended a background check to be performed. Did you perform background check on Dr. Tohme? Trell: "No".Trell said there was no reason to believe Dr. Tohme wasn't telling the truth when he said he represented Michael Jackson. Trell said he saw Dr. Tohme call MJ numerous times about the tour. Trell: "I don't know what she meant with the reference to 'real McCoy'"Email on 6/23/09 from Timm Wooley to Bob Taylor (insurance broker): Kenny Ortega has responsibility only for the show content and structure.Randy Phillips and Dr. Murray are responsible for Michael's rehearsal and attendance schedule. Looks like there might have been an issue in KO either not being demanding enough."Timm Wooley's statement is inaccurate, in my opinion," Trell said, but agreed he never spoke with Wooley about it, never saw it before. "Meaning Michael showed up whenever Michael wanted to," Trell opined. "I testified that I was inquiring of ways that might be available to bridge the gap," Trell said about looking for additional insurance. Trell doesn't know the exact number of the tickets sold. Estimating 15K seats for each of the 50 shows, Trell said it was about 750K tickets. He testified the venue typically holds the money of the sold tickets. In this case, AEG was the owner of the venue, withheld the money. Panish asked Trell if he knew Randy Phillips threatened to take away Michael's house if he didn't perform. Defendant's attorney asked for a sidebar. They claimed Panish was misrepresenting the evidence. After the sidebar, they changed subject. Trell said he didn't know how much MJ's assets were worth. He agreed they were underinsured for the tour. Email from Ortega to Phillips on 6/20/09 at 2am: My concern is now that we have brought the doctor in the fold and have applied tough love, now or never card, that the artist may be unable to rise to the occasion. Panish: "Was Michael pressured psychologically and needed to be checked?"Trell said he doesn't think AEG was under pressure to lose $34 million. "It was Michael Jackson's obligation to us."Panish asked Trell if to work for AEG Live a person needed to have an executed contract. "There are employees that are hired by AEG who don't have contracts; they are at will employees," Trell explained.Panish asked Trell about several people who worked for AEG but didn't have fully executed contracts. Panish: "You told us every person who got paid had fully executed contract, right?"Panish said he wants to show all the unexecuted contracts as of June 25, 2009. Email said: "Contract still under negotiation. Timm gave verbal Termination notice" Panish: "Was everyone without fully executed contracts paid for the This Is It tour?"Email on 6/19/09 from John Hougdahl to Randy Phillips: My laymen's degree tells me he needs a shrink to get him mentally prepared to get on stage and then a trainer to get him in physical shape... (Kobe's should be available) I have watched him deteriorate in front of my eyes over the last 8 weeks. He was able to do multiple 360 spins back in April. He'd fall on his ass if he tried it nowJohn Houghdahl was the stage manager of "This Is It" tour. Trell said Phillips never told him about this email. "This email is an indication from Houghdahl to Phillips that he feels that way." Panish: "Were you trying to stall Dr. Murray in getting a contract?"Email on 5/26/09 from Timm Wooley to Brigitte Segal: Brigitte, Any joy with an agreement for Murray to sign. He's pinging on us for payment but we can't without a contract in place. Would like to stall him with something for him to look at & mull over. Brigitte dealt with the housing in London. Panish: "Do you have anything in writing authorizing you to extend the tour to 50 shows?"Panish showed Trell the contract with Michael and the provisions showed any change needed to be in writing. Panish: "Do you have anything in writing from Mr. Jackson for costs in excess of $7.5 million?"On April 14, 2009, Michael Jackson wrote a "Notice of Revocation of a Power of Attorney" that Tohme was no longer representing him. As of May 5, 2009, Trell was made aware of Michael's request regarding Dr. Tohme "We would not pay on an agreement until there was a fully executed agreement," Trell said. Tohme signed a letter on 6/28/09 on behalf of MJ's company approving the expenses of $34 million to go to Jackson's estate. Panish: "Do you deny telling Mr. Taylor before Michael died that AEG employed Dr. Murray at the request of Michael?"AEG recross Jessica Bina did re-cross of Trell, who said Dr. Murray's agreement required medical licenses both here in the US and in the UK. He also needed proof of insurance. If Dr. Murray didn't provide them, there were grounds for termination of services. Bina: "Did AEG Live ever provided him with medical equipments?"Equipment requested:
Bina: "Does the fact that you are negotiating means you have a contract?"Trell said he didn't know if Michael and Dr. Murray talked about the contract and didn't know whether Michael was going to sign it. Trell said there were dozens and dozens, North of 50 contracts done for the This Is It tour. Contract: Artistsco hereby pre-approves thirty one shows or such greater number as agreed by artistco and promoter. Trell said there was an ongoing discussion about the expenses incurred to mount the show; impractical to get everyone's signature. As to the expense report sent to the estate and approved by Dr. Tohme, Trell said Frank DiLeo also signed it. Bina showed a document from DiLeo saying he was MJ's manager from March 2009 until his death. "For instance, Michael asked AEG Live to retain services of Dr. Murray as his personal physician," DiLeo letter said. Trell said DiLeo was acting in some management capacity for him Bina: "Did anyone ever tell you MJ had not approved the costs for This Is It tour?"As to Dr, Murray, Trell said he didn't feel there was a conflict of interest, the interest of all three parties involved were the same. "There were no inconsistencies in the agenda," Trell said. "Second, even if the agreement was in place, effectively Michael was hiring Dr. Murray, just using our money" "We had entered into a multi-faced, multi-year agreement with Michael and wanted nothing but for it to be successful," Trell testified. "The Michael Jackson company, in first instance, would be responsible to pay the money. Then MJ had guaranteed it," Trell testified saying that if Michael had any royalties, AEG would have rights on it to recoup the money, but couldn't take interest in his music catalogue.Bina played deposition from Trell were he said he didn't supervise people who performed personal services, like hair and make-up artists. His job, Trell explained, was to supervise the what-you-see-on-stage. Bina talked about Hougdahl's email. She asked if it mentioned drug abuse, medication, anesthesia. Trell said "No, the email had to do with Michael being mentally prepared and about a trainer to get him in shape"Trell said HIPPA law is intended to protect a patient. He doesn't have any more knowledge about it. Bina: "Did Mr. Phillips say he discussed treatment of Mr. Jackson with Dr. Murray?"Trell said AEG Live never supplied any equipment or paid for any drugs given to Michael Bina: "What was MJ's cause of death?"Jackson redirect Panish, in re-re-cross: "Did you know AEG paid Frank Dileo $5 million after Michael died?"Panish showed emails regarding DiLeo's revised payment 10/13/09 from Shawn Trell to Rick Webking: Approved $5 MM bucket. $50k payment to Frank would have to do with motion picture, Trell said. It would be taken out of the 5 million dollar bucket."That does not mean Frank was paid $5 million," Trell said, explaining DiLeo was paid $50,000 but he didn't know what for. Regarding the approval of tour expenses. Panish: "You had no signature before Mr. Jackson was dead?""Of course Michael Jackson was necessary for a Michael Jackson tour," Trell explained. "It's his show, it's Michael Jackson show, he's the most important person." Trell said he doesn't recall anybody else, other than Dr. Murray, at the rate of $150,000. Panish: "Did Randy Phillips ever call your doctor to see how you're doing?"Judge ended the session and excused Shawn Trell, subject to recall if needed. Court Transcript |
2023.05.22 13:04 FelicitySmoak_ On This Day In Michael Jackson HIStory - May 22nd
 | 1984 - It is announced that the Jackson's forthcoming Victory Tour will not sell Michael Jackson related merchandise at the tour's venues. It will sell only the Jackson's related merchandise at each show. submitted by FelicitySmoak_ to MichaelJackson [link] [comments] 1984 - Michael is on the cover of tabloid Star magazine https://preview.redd.it/1p4tinsk1a1b1.jpg?width=202&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db799c691004201185ecce940901ec40a97a77ff 1988 - Before rehearsals Michael visits children who suffered from cancer in the Bambino-Gesu Children’s Hospital in Rome. He signs autographs and gives away sweets and records to the children. He also donates a ₤ 100,000 for leukemia research https://preview.redd.it/de16704m1a1b1.jpg?width=919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2c6d2099017ffdec07ddfe41cf2522538720664 https://preview.redd.it/ztgroa6n1a1b1.jpg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=736115548b42d90286dc03b0982d6a0bdfc909ce https://preview.redd.it/i0aurguw1a1b1.jpg?width=930&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7da00118c0379cd41f501c643fe4c125cab4f573 1988 - Gary Taylor, the director of the Suzuki Race Team, heard that Michael was a fan of the Suzuki RG500 motorcycle & offered it to him as a gift at the Lord Byron Hotel https://preview.redd.it/kd1ahpav1a1b1.jpg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa20c484161ce78ba6385b3f1179172448563cd6 https://preview.redd.it/1r7fy3mr1a1b1.jpg?width=1158&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1dc1c1f7445a25c66f9807634856cf2ab052df7e https://preview.redd.it/fby9b8hs1a1b1.jpg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d06e91dac2235024cc44b5217c57b2c4afd19c1 1995 - MTV and VH1 premiere the HIStory teaser. Later the teaser is rolled out to cinemas across the U.S. 2006 - Michael participates in a deposition in London. His former adviser, Mark Schaffel, was suing him for $3.8 million dollars for breach of contract. Michael counter-sued him. In July of 2006, both parties would be awarded money 2007 - Michael arrives in London at Heathrow Airport with his children & their nanny, Grace. He's there to attend a private 25th birthday party for Prince Haji 'Abdul' Azim of Brunei. Prince Azim is known internationally, famous for throwing lavish parties. His 27th birthday party was dubbed the "2009 Party of the Year" https://preview.redd.it/37wkmney1a1b1.jpg?width=949&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74d7061c8f65d26c40ad51d0e7598e50dd05b738 2009 - Fans hear Michael recording a new song from a building in the back of his Holmby Hills estate. Michael tells them he is working on the lyrics and has not chosen the title yet. This mystery song is the last song known to have been recorded by him 2009 - Murray wrote an email to AEG with his bank information so AEG could deposit his salary https://preview.redd.it/ginc2my02a1b1.png?width=518&format=png&auto=webp&s=acb94938c541eb6e0fb2a6b79577d5e3c20229b8 2012 - BAD 25 was announced for a September 18th release. The two disc set includes the original album and unreleased material from the BAD sessions. The deluxe edition, which is a box set, includes both discs along with a CD & DVD of the 7/16/88 Wembley performance, a photo booklet, a two sided poster & a sticker. A vinyl version was also released 2013 - Jackson v AEG Trial Day 15 Katherine, Rebbie and Trent Jackson are in court Shawn Trell Testimony AEG Cross Trell was first asked about the contract between AEG and Jackson's former manager, Tohme R. Tohme. Jessica Bina asked Trell about an agreement regarding former manager Tohme Tohme. He was employed by Jackson and the contract added duties. Compensation is detailed in the contract. There was a condition precedent. Trell: "While this agreement started in January, the conditions/terms were not met. If Tohme would've performed as specified, he would've been paid" Shawn Trell said Tohme's agreement called for him to get paid once cancellation insurance was secured. Tour cancellation insurance wasn't obtained for the This Is It tour until late April, after Tohme had been fired. Trell: "To pursue Jackson's interest in films, AEG would put up a million dollars for development. They contemplated making 3 films". Trell was also asked about an agreement Jackson signed in January of 2009 for a possible three-film deal. The film agreement would have allowed Jackson to get $1 million to develop a script for an AEG-owned film company. In addition to the tour contract between Jackson and AEG, Trell said the two also had an agreement that proposed developing up to three film projects together, one of which was related to his Thriller video. When nothing was developed by the agreement's June 1, 2009, deadline, AEG sent a proposed amendment to extend that date to Jackson's representatives, Trell said. "I think the interest was still there on Mr. Jackson's side and I know we were interested in helping him realize what he wanted to accomplish",Trell said. After discussing the possible film deal, AEG lawyer Jessica Stebbins Bina then asked him more about tour cancellation policy. Trell said it's always the artists obligation to obtain this form of insurance to pay back the advances. Trell: "The cancellation insurance, whether one show lost or the entire tour, Michael was obligated to pay us regarding the production costs. AEG had an obligation regarding advances. We don't secure insurance to cover profits, only to protect losses from cancellation.We don't secure cancellation insurance to secure anticipated profits, only advanced costs" Trell: "It is not uncommon for an artist to have the assistance of a promoter. We have to be satisfied with the strength of the policy". Trell said insurance was $17.5 million. He said in the market place there was lot of skittishness. He said the insurance broker was having difficulty at first getting cancellation insurance. There wasn't a lot of interest and Trell said the underwriters in London were concerned with tabloid reports about Jackson's health. Some reports referenced Jackson having skin cancer, which wasn't the case. Broker suggested a medical exam to alleviate concerns. The exam would involve blood and urine tests, filling out a questionnaire and the doctor reviewing 5 years of Jackson's medical records. Broker suggested a NYC ear, nose and throat specialist, who was flown out to Los Angeles and evaluated Jackson. The doctor had to provide his resume and sign a confidentiality agreement before examining Jackson in early February 2009. Trell said he never saw the medical records from Jackson's exam & has never seen an artist's records after a physical. He testified that he was later informed by the insurance broker. Trell: The broker's exact words to me were, 'Other than a slight case of hay fever, he passed with flying colors' " AEG ended up securing a $17.5-million insurance policy that listed among its exclusions the illegal possession or illicit taking of drugs and their effects. Jackson was referred to as 'Mark Jones' in the documents to mask his identity. The policy covered the first 30 shows at O2 Arena. Trell said it was unusual for an artist to be listed under a different name on an insurance policy in his experience. AEG had a $17.5 million "non-appearance" policy on Jackson should he fail to perform the first 13 of his 50 shows at London's O2 Arena. The insurers wouldn't cover illness until Jackson underwent a second medical exam to be performed in London by a doctor selected by the insurers Bina: "You wouldn't go out to get a policy for an artist with an illicit drug problem?"List of what appeared on tabloids:
On June 25, 2009, at 5:54 a.m., London time, Taylor sent an email to Dr. Conrad Murray, who had been brought onto the tour to tend to Jackson. The email, introduced as evidence in the case, read: The insurers have specifically requested information on the following:Jackson died hours later from a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol administered by Murray. Jessica Stebbins Bina, an attorney representing AEG, pointed out in the courtroom that the list of insurers concerns did not include drugs, painkillers, alcohol or sleep disorders. Bina: "Could AEG make a profit from cancellation insurance?"Trell said employees are insured by the company. Independent contractors are just that, that is why it is called independent. "Independent contractors have area of expertise needed to make the project happen", Trell said. It's expertise not within the company itself. Trell: "We hire third parties for equipment, sound. They're usually referred to us or they are known to the artist. People responsible for the project would be involved in establishing rates and conditions, agreement is handled by me or my office. On a nightly basis when they leave the premises, they go home, that is the sanctity of their home, that is their business. It would be misguided for us to inject ourselves in the lives of those people. (Referring to members of an artist's entourage). It would be misplaced or misguided for us to inject ourselves into the affairs of an artist" Bina: "Did AEG have any role in choosing doctor Murray?"Trell said insurance was required based on the contract. Trell said they produced Prince's tour a few years ago, which was analogous to the This Is It tour Email on 5/21/09 from Wooley to Dr. Murray: Dear Conrad, I should like to send a contract to you in the next day or two But am looking for help writing the legal department because the form within which I work don't apply to your specialized position. So it has to be custom-generated.On 5/28/09, Wooley said to Dr. Murray that the legal department has not yet completed the agreement which is rather specialized, rare event Email noted payment could only be made upon fully executed contract. Kathy Jorrie is attorney retained by AEG to work on Murray's contract Bina: "Did Ms. Jorrie begin contract negotiations with Dr. Murray at your direction?"6/15/09 Jorrie wrote to Wooley: I've attached draft for your review/comment. If you approved the attached, please submit copy to Dr. MurrayContract: Provision 9 Artist Consent - 'The effect of this agreement is conditioned upon the approval and consent of the artist' Contract: 'Without the artist's expressed and written approval of the agreement neither party to the agreement will have any rights obligations to one another arising from the agreement'. Trell testified this was the first contract he saw this provision included. Trell said there's a final settling of the tour after the project is completed. That's where they categorize/re-categorize things. Trell said he doesn't do the final settlement himself, but people who do ask him questions about how it should be done."My understanding is that he was going to be categorized as artist advance. This was specific accommodation at the request of the artist as opposed to production cost incurred while mounting a show. I'm not aware of Mr Jackson making objections to this provision," Trell explained Bina showed Dr. Murray's last page of the contract signed by Murray. The agreement was between AEG Live Productions, LLC and GCA Holdings LLC and Conrad Murray. GCA Holdings is Dr. Murray's employer. "The intention was to make it (provision 9) expressly subject to have Michael's signature on it," Trell explained Bina shows the Recitals of the contract. In one of them, it says Dr. Murry was a licensed cardiologist. Contract Scope of Services: 'Dr. Murray will provide general medical care to the Artist... Such services will be administered professionally and w/ the greatest degree of care expected from members in the medical field' Responsibilities of GCA/Dr. Murray - 'Obtain, maintain and comply with all licenses or other approvals required by any applicable law or from any governmental agency or authority to permit or otherwise legally authorize Dr. Murray to perform any and all Services and to fulfill all of his obligations under this Agreement including in accordance with applicable laws in the United Kingdom. Present to Producer within two weeks from the date of this Agreement documented proof of any and all licenses required for Dr. Murray to practice Medicine in the United States and to perform the Services under this Agreement. Present to Producer no later than July 3, 2009 documented proof of all licenses required for Dr. Murray to practice medicine i n the United Kingdom and to perfonn the Services under this Agreement to the reasonable satisfaction of the producer. Contract included provisions to terminate the contract for failure to provide appropriate medical licenses to work in the US and UK Email on 6/23/09 from Kathy Jorrie to Wooley and Dr. Murray: I've attached here a revised version of your agreement which incorporates all of the revision you requested. I have redlined the word version so that you can see all the revisionsRedline - It changed the scope of services from 'producer' to 'artist' in the sentence: "Dr. Murray shall also provide such other services as are reasonably requested by Artist from time to time during the term hereof. "It was requested by Dr. Murray," Trell said Trell spoke with individuals from AEG about MJ's physical condition. He said he was told MJ seemed fine and the performances were terrific Email on 6/20/09 from Ortega to Phillips: Finally, it's important for everyone to know, I believe that he really wants this. It would shatter him, break his heart if we pulled the plug. He's terribly frightened it's all going to go away. He asked me repeatedly tonight if I was going to leave him. He was practically begging for my confidence. He broke my heart. He was like a lost boy. There still may be a chance he can arise to the occasion. If we get him the help he needs.Trell said he was in the courtroom when Travis Payne testified. He remembers Payne saying Michael looked like he had flu-like symptoms on 6/19/09. "Everyone mentioned chilling or cold, but no one definitively stated at the time what was going on," Trell said. Bina: "Did you speak with Mr. Phillips about his interaction with Dr. Murray?"He knew one on June 20th, and another one in the beginning of June, but he didn't know the date. Meeting on June 20th: Dr. Murray, Michael, Randy Phillips and Kenny Ortega: "Firstly, Michael indicated he was fine, just fine. Secondly, Dr. Murray scolded Kenny Ortega for raising concern, that he was taking care of Michael and he was just fine. There were no rehearsals on 21st and 22nd and Michael rehearsed on the 23rd and 24th & that he appeared fine and the rehearsals were terrific", Trell saidOn June 25, Trell said there were two people that represented Michael Jackson in some management capacity: Dr. Tohme and Frank DiLeo. Trell said that MJ's Estate ultimately approved the productions advances incurred in the tour Bina: "Does AEG Live does background check on its employees?"Jackson redirect Panish only got about 15 mins of questions in at the end of the day. He immediately went at Trell on his recollection of dates, details. Brian Panish: "Have you seen documents where Dr. Murray is referred to as a consultant?"Trell said he was very, very involved in the This Is It tour He started out by asking Trell if he was certain that Jackson signed the This Is It agreement on Jan. 26, 2009, as he'd testified. Trell said he was certain he'd testified correctly about the events of the day, but conceded toward the end of several questions that he might have been wrong about the exact date. January 26, 2009 was the first and only time Trell met with Michael Jackson. "I'm sure it was the only time I met Michael. I won't forget meeting Michael Jackson...He seems very personable when I met him, I thought it was very interesting when he got up and met me at the door," Trell explained. Panish noted the contract signing was on the 28th, not the 26th. Panish: "You were wrong about that, sir?"Hours before Anschutz Entertainment Group executives were heading to Michael Jackson's Holmby Hills home to sign multimillion-dollar contracts for his concert series in London, the firm's top lawyer called Jackson 'the freak' in an email to another company attorney Panish began to built toward a climax, asking Trell if it were company policy to speak in derogatory terms about an artist they were about to sign a huge deal with. "I think people have their own impressions, and thoughts and feelings about Michael Jackson. I may not necessarily agree with some of the life choices he made but I certainly had enormous respect for him as an entertainer", Trell said. Then Panish gave the jury a foreshadowing of what was to come. He asked Trell, "Did Mr. Fikre say to you that Michael Jackson was a freak?" (a reference to Ted Fikre chief legal and development officer and a member of the board of parent company AEG) before slowly unraveling the emails. The email chain starts Jan 28, 2009, with AEG Live executive Paul Gongaware writing Randy Phillips, president and chief executive of AEG Live: "MJ still on today?"Phillips emails back: Yes. 5 p.m. 100 Carolwood Dr. You and Shawn should be there [referring to Trell]From Trell to Ted Fikre (attorney on the board of AEG) on 1/28/09: FYI...From Fikre to Trell on 1/28/09, in response, three minutes later: Does this mean you get to meet the freak?Trell replies: Apparently. Not sure how I feel about that. Interesting for sure, but kind of creepy Panish to Trell: "This is the kind of respect that your lawyer shows to this artist, referring to him as a freak?"Panish then scolded Trell as he sat in the witness box, "Didn't your mother ever tell you if you don't have anything good to say about someone not to say it?" AEG objected to the question. Some of the jurors laughed. Judge sustained the objection that Panish's question was argumentative Trell returns to the stand in the morning to undergo more questioning from Panish. "I'll see you in the morning," he brusquely told Trell. Outside the court : "That email just exemplifies that AEG had no respect for Mr. Jackson.," Panish said outside of court. "All he was was a vehicle to make money and to promote their concert business to catch up to Live Nation. We're going to continue to prove that for members of the board and attorneys to refer to him as that is disgraceful. We're going to continue to show and prove what AEG is all about. This was just the tip of the iceberg." Jessica Stebbins Bina, AEG's attorney, said the emails were shown merely to embarrass AEG. "We are four weeks into trial and we have yet to hear one piece of substantive evidence," said Marvin S. Putnam, an attorney who is leading AEG's defense Court Transcript |
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